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The Doctors Surgery - April 2012
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It’s back, by popular demand! Here are my predictions for the Interleague finals which take place at Great Yarmouth next weekend!
Group 1
Staffs A have just won the national Inter-County so clearly they are in good form, which means the defending champs, mighty Trent Trophies A, will be as hard to beat as ever! Having said that, they have a really tough opener against South Norfolk, which is a very good side indeed on its day. The third team is Yeovil – and it won’t be enjoying the experience!
Group 2
This is one of the few ‘weak’ groups (no disrespect intended) in this year’s comp, as none of the three of them have much pedigree. I’ll opt for Chelmsford ahead of Dunstable Snooker Club A with Whitbread bringing up the rear, but this could go to a three-team play-off.
Group 3
I really fancy Norwich A to cruise this group, ahead of Notts and District and Cumbria’s Kendal, who will fight it off for second spot.
Group 4
London’s Frank Smith is in action in this group and it’s earned itself a decent chance, I think, because neither of its opponents are ‘A’ teams. There’s Normans Elite B, second stringers to Rochdale’s finest, and Braintree Sportsman. I think Frank Smith will do London proud in this group.
Group 5
This is a shoot-out between Brighton A and Medway A. Brighton has the pedigree but for years now has been missing its better known players, while Medway has been weakened over the past couple of seasons by the return of Rochester. I will go for Brighton to edge it. The third team is Stapleford Cue Club.
Group 6
Leeds are perennial under-achievers but should relish this decent draw. The Leicester Lions are always involved but never contenders, while Redditch B lacks the firepower to upset the Yorkshiremen.
Group 7
Here’s the best group so far: Midland Railway from Leicester against Tolworth from Surrey will be a massive match, and I’d love to be a spectator at it. I’d also love to say Tolworth will win but I have to be fair and objective, and I think Midland Railway is just too good. The third team in the group is the St Albans Saints, no bad team either!
Group 8
Surrey’s other powerhouse, the Surrey Warriors, has an easier group, I think. I think they will win ahead of NCPLE A with New Milton last.
Group 9
My team Waterloo 2 takes on the vastly experienced Reds I from Coventry, plus Riddings from Notts. Both teams have been around the block more times than they’d care to remember so this will be very difficult for us but if we play well, we could hold our own. I think we have a decent chance against Riddings, but Reds I will be hard to call – this is a team capable of beating anyone, as they’ve shown with their decent runs to the quarters, but if we catch them on a bad day, they are vulnerable. Even so, they must start as favourites.
Group 10
In all my years of following Interleague I have never come across a team from Devon in the competition, so welcome to Plymouth Combination A. Reader beware – just because Devon has no pedigree in Interleague doesn’t make it Disneyworld, just check out the county’s record in the Inter-County finals over the years! Still, a first time team rarely threatens, and Wolverhampton Wednesday B, with all their tremendous experience and semi-finalists very recently, must fancy their chances of seeing off both Plymouth and Oxfordshire’s Witney Snooker 2. So, here’s my radical shout of the day: I’ve looked at the Plymouth team sheet and it contains the likes of Jamie and Jez Graham and more of that calibre besides, so I fancy Plymouth are going to win this group!
Group 11
This one doesn’t shout out at me, but if anything I think Cumbria’s Whitehaven is due a good run. West Yorkshire’s Bramley Globetrotters and the lads from Riley’s Rotherham will make a fight of it though.
Group 12
This is a dead cert for me: Cambridge’s ‘elite’ team, now called Mickey Flynn’s, will win this group, ahead of Cannock Chase from Staffs and Leicestershire’s Hinckley United.
Group 13
Experience tells me Walsall should win this, and they probably will, but Oxfordshire’s Witney is getting better, and will make them fight for it. I think, for all its experience, Littlehampton A will struggle in this group.
Group 14
What a great match for a neutral: an old-fashioned London vs Surrey derby! Having said that, Waterloo is London’s best while Croydon A are more irregular visitors to the finals. Still, they have some tasty cueists in their ranks so it should be good fun. I think Waterloo, semi-finalists in October, will win. The third team is The Parade, and I can’t help but think that when Waterloo gets into full flow against these lads, there’ll be a few choruses of “Don’t Rain on My Parade”!
Group 15
Dawley are back, and dangerous as ever – this is their group to win, and I think Gainsborough, a team from Lincs who used to play out of Notts, and the Stockport Demons, had both better get used to that idea.
Group 16
This group could go any way, really, but in the end I think the savvy of East Herts will see them victorious ahead of the experienced teams from Penrith and Halifax A.
Group 17
Not a classic group by any stretch of the imagination, which means the improving Mid-Sussex A will have a chance to grab it by the scruff of the neck. The team to be wary of will be Northwich B, as Northwich produces good teams. I can’t say I fancy the chances of the Sheppey Shipwreckers.
Group 18
Rochester disappointed me on their comeback in October, going out in the knock-out stages earlier than expected. They should do better this time. They will certainly smash up this unfortunate group, comprised of Shrewsbury and Riley’s Coventry.
Group 19
Preston South is still awaiting its first trophy, but it won’t have things all its own way in this group when it lines up against Braintree A from Essex. This is a tighter match than you may think, but I fancy Preston South to win it. Central Cars will be booking their taxis home early.
Group 20
Chesterfield always wins its group and this will be no exception – Nuneaton A will be second, while Dunstable Snooker Club C will be mopping the floor.
Group 21
Once again, a London team has got a decent draw, and I think SLKPA will take full advantage of the fragility of their opponents, NOPL A and the Luton Lions, both of whom has experience in bundles but fails to deliver.
Group 22
Maidenhead Elite is the new Renegade, one of the best teams from an ever-improving Berkshire set-up, and I fancy them to win this group. Kettering Town and the Stockport Aces, both steady but unspectacular, will be second and third respectively.
Group 23
Sun Valley stand out as the favourites here. They always pose a threat and have a great record at the finals, and I can’t see Derbyshire’s Long Eaton or Buckinghamshire’s Aylesbury threatening Nottinghamshire’s finest.
Group 24
Another of the favourites, PJ’s Stourbridge, lines up in this group and should win it comfortably enough, although it’s always daunting being up against a team using the Trent Trophies brand name, even if that team is the Trent Trophies Players. I’m not sure but this seems like a bit of a mix of Leek and Afford players and could do some damage, but probably won’t puncture the PJ’s armour. The Panthers from Cornwall made their debut last year and did themselves proud, but this will be too tough a challenge for them I think.
Group 25
Talk about too close to call: Wigan and Ipswich A in the same group!!!!! Wigan are always so solid, so consistent, but on the back of Suffolk’s fine run at the Inter-County finals I am going to have to go for Ipswich A, I think. The third team is Regency which, I believe, is from Lincs.
Group 26
A tight group if not a superstar one, this – my money is on Meltis Club, a decent team comprised of Bedfordshire A players, to upset the experienced City of Leicester and Cornwall’s hardy Alan Davis, a team that has been making the long journey to Yarmouth for many, many years.
Group 27
There’s always one group about which I have nothing to say, but I have no idea who the Pumas or SIP L actually are! Armed with such ignorance, I can only go for what I know, which is that Lye and Stourbridge, while no world-beaters, can be capable enough, and should win this group. Of course, they probably won’t.
Group 28
So improved are they that these days, Hammersmith A can beat just about anyone on their day. There would have been a time when a draw against Surrey’s Godalming would have been something to fear, but not any longer. Hammersmith go into this as clear favourites and they deserve to be. The third team is the Weston Bees, which, thankfully for both Hammersmith and Godalming, is NOT the same as Weston A!
Group 29
Let’s be honest, the Trent Trophies B team is really not a B team in any conventional sense! They’re easily good enough to make it to the quarter-finals, maybe beyond. So they should wrap up this group ahead of Ipswich C and the Diss Wizards, who will fight off their own East Anglia derby in the battle for second place.
Group 30
The form-book tells me that Accrington HIPL, the team from Hynburn loaded with experience, will win this group, ahead of Cambridgeshire’s St Neots and Suffolk’s Stowmarket.
Group 31
Essex teams are worth a flutter this time around, and none more so than Colchester, who occasionally put together a fine run. I think Romney Marsh A from Kent will run them close, while Eccles B will prop up the group.
Group 32
Dinnington Cue Craft are too good for the rest in this final group. They reached the final back in October after seeing off a tired Waterloo in the semi-finals, and neither Crawley A nor St Helens, both capable sides, should trouble them I think.
And the winner is ...
... probably obvious, but let’s go through the motions anyway. Here’s my nominations!
One to win: Trent Trophies A (of course!)
Two to match them: Preston South and Rochester
Two that should match them but might slip up: Midland Railway and PJ’s Stourbridge
Two to progress solidly while other fancied teams fall away: Sun Valley and Dawley
Two that nobody saw coming: Plymouth Combination A and Mickey Flynn’s
London’s chances? Decent, with Waterloo, who made the semi-finals in October, leading the charge, and Frank Smith, the current London champions, more than capable of putting in a good run.
Of course, London teams haven’t done well at Interleague since the glory days of Imperial, so few pundits will be considering us as potential winners, which is fine.
SLKPA can string some good results together and if they stay focused and get a decent draw they could be in action in the later stages as well. The team which has the toughest draw out of the London quartet is actually Waterloo 2. Bloody typical!
Oh well, nine of us will be going up there, cues in hand, with nothing to lose, so bring it on!
The Doctor
March 2012
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THE DOCTOR’S SURGERY – October 2011
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Welcome to the Doctor’s Surgery - a pool report refreshingly free of politics.
In this report we talk not of conspiracies, betrayals, blackmail or the future of the game, but simply assess the relative strengths and weaknesses of the teams competing at the 2011 Interleague Knockout Cup, played at Yarmouth next weekend.
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It should be a pretty rowdy time for Londoners as well - there’s barely a London player of any note who isn’t going to be gracing the hallowed main hall of Vauxhall Holiday Park. We have an unprecedented six teams competing in the 96-team event.
Waterloo 2 go up as Cup champions after seeing off SLKPA in the final.
Frank Smith and Battersea A were semi-finalists and join the finalists as expected. But for various reasons, not least the fact that London teams are pretty well-organised and have earned a reputation for being reliable, slots have also been allocated to Waterloo and Waterloo 3. Many of these guys will be making their debuts at the Interleague. They’re in for some cracking pool, I am quite sure.
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In Group 1, the defending champs and all-time legends Trent Trophies A will expect to progress, but this is not as easy a group as one might think. Those former Pocket Rockets NCPLE A are handy enough, and one shouldn’t underrate Mid-Sussex A.
Having said that, the Stoke potters remain the team to beat.
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Group 2 features three sides with almost identical Yarmouth records in recent years. Each of Clitheroe, Gainsborough and Hinckley has escaped the groups once in either Cup or League in the past decade and progressed no further. Each is an occasional, but by no means regular, visitor.
Of the three, Clitheroe’s has been the best recent record so I will opt for them, but all three teams will fancy their chances.
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Group 3 is also a quiet one, because Ipswich C are newcomers, North-East Norfolk made their debut earlier this year, and Dunstable are very infrequent visitors. No team has thus established any kind of pedigree.
Knowing how tough the Norfolk set-up is I will opt for North-East Norfolk.
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Group 4 sees the first of the London teams in action - my own Waterloo 2, now ably captained by Smithy and fresh off the success in the cup final. In previous years we have had some nightmare groups, with the likes of Dawley, South Norfolk and Preston South standing in our way, but this time we have a decent draw. Stowmarket debuted earlier on this year, and the Weston Bees are, I believe, Weston’s B team who have had some success in the past.
I really think Waterloo 2 is favourite to win this group.
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Group 5 is another that fails to inspire. Witney Snooker B and Rugby Rileys are relative newcomers although Rugby may be a development of the earlier, more successful Rugby team, in which case they would have to start as favourites ahead of Witney B and old-hands Central Cars.
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There might be some fireworks in Group 6 because PJ’s Stourbridge have to negotiate their way past the Weston Allstars, presumably the former Weston A. That’s no easy draw for PJ’s. Plus, Lowestoft Town are no slouches.
In the best group so far, I think PJ’s should have enough to come through.
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Group 7 features the Leeds Legends, who might be the actual Leeds team or they might be a new name for the old White Rose OAPs, some veterans of the Yorkshire and national scene.
In either case I fancy they will see off Canterbury A and unknowns D Cue Craft.
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Lye and Stourbridge may not be up with the superstars these days but they should have enough to win Group 8, although it depends on which Berkshire players are lining up for Maidenhead Elite. It could well be that this is a team of very strong players indeed.
I would rule out Riddings.
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One of the traditional competitors, Nuneaton A, plays in Group 9, and with Redditch B and COBHPL B (aka Brighton B) in its group, it should fancy its chances of progressing, with good reason.
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Group 10 is a good one because all three teams have some pedigree. Recent form suggests Midland Railway are strong favourites - they are probably the strongest team in Leicestershire at the moment, and beat Leicester on their way to the semi-finals last time. Afford have always been seen as a Trent Trophies feeder team capable of achieving some decent runs of its own, while Meltis Club is the former Bedford A, so no bad team at all.
I am still going for the Railway boys though.
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Finally, two of the top teams are lining up against each other as Preston South play Normans Elite in Group 11. This should be a cracker, and one must feel sorry for poor old Romney Marsh A, a decent side thrown in with the lions here.
I always fancy the Preston side to go far and this is no exception.
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In Group 12, Lord Nelson A has a lot of Netherthorpe in it and carries the reputation of South Yorkshire. It will have its work cut out, though, against Wolverhampton Wednesday B, a team in fine form recently.
Ruling out Northwich B in this group, I am opting for Wolves Wednesday to progress.
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Neutrals should try and watch some of the game between the Surrey Warriors and South Norfolk in Group 13. There’s not much to call between these two talented sides. If pushed I will go for South Norfolk to squeeze it, as these days they are frequent visitors to the latter stages. Both teams should see off Worthing LA.
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In Group 14, Cannock Chase will be hoping that the Cannock reputation from back in the 1990s, when they are multiple champions, still carries some weight. I doubt it will do, though, for hardy veterans COBHPL A (Brighton A) and Walsall.
I have to go with Brighton here, narrowly.
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Teams from Dunstable are rather like London buses. You wait years for one to compete, and then two do at once. Having said that, Dunstable SC C hardly seem like group winners. I think Notts Supreme will have the edge on City of Leicester in Group 15.
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Now then - when the draw for Group 16 came out, and we saw the name ‘Corn Exchange’ in with that of our own Waterloo, we probably all thought, "not again"!!!! Those talented Derbyshire stars have been a bogey team to London’s premier side for a while now.
However, I have it on authority that Kiddy’s Corn Exchange are a different team, which bodes well for Waterloo to progress ahead of both them and Bracknell and Ascot B.
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On to Group 17 now, and this might be a cracker! While the Belle Vue Patriots will be watching some decent pool from their chairs and counting up the frames against them, the two big guns will slog it out in a battle royal! Will it be former champs Dawley or ever-impressive Norwich A? It’s so tough - sometimes Dawley can be brilliant, but sometimes they just implode and let themselves down, while Norwich has more consistency about it.
It’s Norwich for me - just.
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Waterloo 3 makes its debut in Group 18, and for most of the lads it will be a whole new experience. Let’s hope the team’s older hands keep the younger ones focused because they will need all their skills to get through this tough group. In reality, I have to say it is a fight between the other two teams, East Herts and Colchester, each of which has real pedigree in the nationals. I’m led to believe East Herts may be missing some key players, but then again, Colchester have been known to lose unexpectedly despite being a team that has twice knocked Trent Trophies A out in the group stages.
I am trusting to luck here - there is so much talent in Hertfordshire, I am opting for East Herts.
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Group 19 is also a two-horse race. Wigan are steady, reliable contenders, always there or thereabouts, while Reds I have talent in abundance. I fancy the Lancastrian side to edge this, leaving Diss Wizards looking to find some magic in the bar afterwards.
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Milton Keynes A is one of the great under-achievers. In fact, I am rather bored with saying that, and with predicting them to do well only to see them flop. But OK, I’ll give it one more go. They should win Group 20 ahead of Reigate A and the Luton Lions.
But they probably won’t ...
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CLHPL A is in fact Crewe, and that should be enough to make it favourite for Group 21. Bracknell and Ascot A will make a match of it with them, but Dawley B look to be out of their depth. But all three teams are packed with experience, so it should be fun to follow this group.
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Another London team, SLKPA, lines up in Group 22. These lads impress me every time I see them and I fancy they will dish out a comfortable win over newcomers Horseshoe. But I fear they will not win the group, because Liverpool’s Liverleague is a newish team that is just full of established professionals, Welsh internationals, and a certain South African ex-Londoner with an attacking style of play.
Sorry SLKPA - it has to be JJ and his Liverleague for me.
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When I said there were six London teams in the comp, I wasn’t being entirely honest. There are seven, if you count Hammersmith A, who play out of Berkshire. With such talent as young Giuseppe D’Imperio in its ranks, Hammersmith just gets better and better. They’ve seen action on the second day, they have beaten top sides and nothing in me would be surprised if they did it again. But I cannot, in good conscience, make them favourites so long as they have Sun Valley, multiple former champions, in their group, Group 23.
So it’s Sun Valley to win for me. Long Eaton are out of their depth, despite their experience.
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Group 24 should see another Nottinghamshire team progress, Nottingham A, but with Ilkeston United and NEPL as its opponents, this won’t be as exciting a group as the one next door. I quite like NEPL and often think they should do better, but I can’t see it this time.
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In Group 25, an old name returns. Rochester used to be one of the top sides - probably the best team ever not to win one of the Yarmouth titles (at least, since PJs have managed it, although players from Brighton, East Herts and Preston might be screaming in disagreement!). I have it on good authority that this Rochester side contains many of the stars from before, whose names are well known to most people reading this, plus, of course, they have a certain ex-Waterloo player in Mr Pople.
I think Kettering Town are decent and I don’t doubt so are Littlehampton A, but barring a total disaster, Rochester should absolutely cruise this group.
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Group 26 is a tough one for me. It contains the team currently top of the London league, Frank Smith. Dicko has worked wonders with this team all season and certainly, at the very top of the team line-up, you have players who have won national championships and pro titles, but is there enough strength in depth to see off Braintree A, which Rob Hill plays for? Hmm - I am going to say yes (at the risk of sounding like an X-Factor judge).
Frank Smith to win! Pity poor Chesterfield Charity - they will be in need of some charity after this ordeal!
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On to Group 27 and here we go again, another group containing two top sides and one fish out of water. The fish is Afford Plaza, although there are no weak players in the Afford league, so let’s not rule them out too quickly. Then, there’s Ipswich A, and then there’s Tolworth. We all know how good these teams are, and how hard they are to beat. Whenever they have not escaped their groups it has usually been because they have lost to another top team.
It is really close, this, and partly because I always have faith in their ability, and partly because some of them are mates of mine, I am going to shout for Tolworth in this one.
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Will Battersea A finally get the result they deserve in Group 28? I think they have a good chance against the Taunton Gardeners, but I fear East Leeds have too much experience and too much savvy for them. Sorry.
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Chesterfield are runaway favourites for Group 29. Portsmouth Shearer will be second, ahead of the Leicester Lions, who usually make the journey here but rarely escape the groups.
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Someone in Group 30 is going to be punching above its weight, because I have no recollection of a St Helens team playing before, I have no idea who The Parade are, and Vale of Belvoir came here last year and finished last in their group on their only appearance. It’s lucky dip time, and the winner is, St Helens. Why? Because teams from the north-west are usually a bit feisty.
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Godalming hasn’t done much in a while, but with Group 31 also featuring the Leicester Bulls and newcomers New Milton, this might be when that streak ends. Of course, it might not. Whatever happens, don’t expect the winner of the whole comp to be playing on this table!
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Finally, to Group 32, where the question we all ask every Yarmouth has to be asked again: which Barking Phoenix will turn up? The one capable of beating anyone? Or the one capable of playing like a dog’s dinner? Up against Halifax A (although perhaps less so against outsiders Ashford B) they will have to be on their best form. But yes, I think they will do it. Surely you agree ... Maybe not!
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Which means the following teams will be in the last thirty-two on Saturday afternoon:
· Trent Trophies A
· Clitheroe
· North-East Norfolk
· Waterloo 2
· Rugby Rileys
· PJ’s Stourbridge
· Leeds Legends
· Lye and Stourbridge
· Nuneaton A
· Midland Railway
· Preston South
· Wolverhampton Wednesday B
· South Norfolk
· COBHPL A
· Notts Supreme
· Waterloo
· Norwich A
· East Herts
· Wigan
· Milton Keynes A
· CLHPL A
· Liverleague
· Sun Valley
· Nottingham A
· Rochester
· Frank Smith
· Tolworth
· East Leeds
· Chesterfield
· St Helens
· Godalming
· Barking Phoenix
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These then fall into various categories. There are some, such as Clitheroe, NE Norfolk, Rugby Rileys, St Helens, Notts Supreme and Godalming who would have done well to get this far. There are a few, like Norwich A, South Norfolk, Midland Railway, Liverleague, CLHPL A and maybe even Milton Keynes A who could surprise a few people. There are some highly ranked teams who might easily slip up.
Of course, there are the London teams capable of upsetting anyone ...
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I’ve got my five to watch and it doesn’t include PJ’s Stourbridge (surprisingly, perhaps). I think you should never count out Sun Valley. I also think Preston South is due a big win, and this could be their year. I have a strong suspicion Midland Railway will be an even-stronger team this time around, which would make them one of the favourites by any reckoning. I genuinely think Rochester are dangerous and could mark their return to the big stage with a big trophy. But all these teams first have to get past Trent Trophies A. And that, as they say, is never an easy thing to do.
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Am I right? We’ll find out at the weekend.
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Yours in pool
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The Doctor
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THE DOCTOR’S SURGERY - APRIL 2011
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Next weekend is Yarmouth weekend, and Waterloo and Waterloo II are both in action. Both have tough groups (don’t we always?).
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Waterloo plays in Group 23 against Nottingham’s Sun Valley and Kent’s Folkestone A. Naturally, Sun Valley, twice winners at Yarmouth and among the country’s top teams, will start as favourites, but Waterloo boasts the best of London and the best of London have just won the national inter-county championship, so why worry?
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Meanwhile, in Group 17, Waterloo II lines up against Tolworth and Norwich B.
On paper, Tolworth is the form team, while Norwich B can’t be discounted – in the past they have narrowly beaten Waterloo II and confidently crushed Waterloo in separate events so they are old adversaries. But then again, the Waterloo II team at present is stronger than it has ever been, so I am confident we will be competitive in this group.
What’s happening on the other tables?
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Defending champs PJ’s Stourbridge look to be dead certs to win Group 1. Cannock Chase from Staffs should have enough to see off Dawley B from Shropshire for second place.
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My money for Group 2 is on Northwich A. The north-westerners have been slowly establishing themselves and should see off Dorking and Bracknell and Ascot B, in that order.
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Group 3 is a tough one because while Brighton A have the best track record, they are but a shadow of their former self, while Godalming has a reputation for winning groups in which they are drawn with more successful teams.
I’ll stick with the Sussex boys, though, which leaves Newport (IoW) languishing in third place.
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In Group 4, I am sticking my neck out for City of Leicester to squeeze past Rugby Riley’s and Kendal, but this is not an easy one.
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I fancy Phil Harrison’s Ely to win Group 5. They often under-achieve but this time they have got a decent draw, although Barnsley Monday are hard to beat, and even Andover have some serious firepower.
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Chesterfield are nailed on for Group 6. Long Eaton and Penwith are both regular visitors but inconsistent.
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In Group 7, my instinct is for Essex’s Braintree A, who should field Rob Hill. They will finish ahead of NCPLE A from Northants and Lowestoft Town in that order, but all teams have pedigree.
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South Norfolk haven’t set the world alight but every time I see them I am impressed, so I go for them to finish ahead of Cornwall’s Alan Davis and Suffolk’s Ipswich B in Group 8.
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Derbyshire’s Corn Exchange have shown themselves to be genuine contenders. Last time they took out Waterloo in the group stages thanks in no small part to their recruitment of the Chambers brothers, and I can’t see either Bracknell and Ascot A or Weston D troubling them in Group 9. The Berks team should seal second place easily enough.
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Group 10 is the group containing one of this year’s favourites – the brilliant Preston South. Watch Hibbott and Clough and their boys smash this group up, ahead of Central Cars and North-East Norfolk PL.
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In Group 11, my feeling is for a win for Accrington HIPL (Hyndburn Independent Pool League, for those who need to know). Witney from Oxfordshire might squeeze out Lye and Stourbridge for second place, but this is a group with plenty of decent pedigree.
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Can Barking Phoenix show their mettle in Group 12? I fancy so, but they are a damned unpredictable side. Worthing should edge Whitecliffs Dover to second place.
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The Surrey Warriors are always last-sixteen material and the draw has not exactly made me think they won’t get there again this year in Group 13. Driffield are old campaigners, but don’t have the power to match the Surrey boys, while Riley’s Coventry are as yet unproven.
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Here’s a call I am sticking my neck on. I have been increasingly impressed with London’s SLKPA and I think they now have the experience to post some decent results at this level. They’ve been blessed with a winnable group, and while I will never call Nottinghamshire’s Calverton & Arnold or Cambridgeshire’s St Neots pushovers, their records needn’t overly concern London’s third team, and I fancy a win for the SLK boys in Group 14.
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For me, Group 15 is one of those tight ones which we so enjoy when it comes to Yarmouth. The form team is Derbyshire’s Dinnington, semi-finalists a couple of years back, while Penrith are decent, but for me, this group belongs to Kent’s Medway A, a team waiting to show itself off.
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Group 16 is a one-horse race. That horse is former champs Norman’s Elite from Rochdale. Precisely who the Dunstable Demons and Midland Railway are I don’t know, nor do I care, because they’ll have to be damned special to stop Norman’s Elite from progressing.
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Group 18 doesn’t excite me. I have no idea who the Panthers are, so I am discounting them, and Leicester Lions are a team of journeymen and journeywomen, so I’m tipping my hat to the experienced players lining up for Bradford’s Bull’s Head St. They come and go, and use different names, but a lot of the players in this West Yorks outfit have winning experience.
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Group 19 is a bit of a damp squib, unfortunately. None of the teams are world-beaters. For me, Lord Nelson A, the former Netherthorpe and Punchbowl, containing some ex-Sheffield boys, should do the business here, ahead of Taunton LVA and Bramley Globetrotters.
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Group 20 should be won by Walsall, ahead of Shrewsbury B and Barnard Castle, whoever they are.
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In Group 21, my instinct goes for CLHPL A, better known as Colchester, although I wouldn’t be surprised if Worcester Fox pulls a surprise. Leek A are the outsiders.
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While I love the name of one of the teams in Group 22, Shoulder of Mutton, I have to feel they will end up more like lambs to the slaughter when they line up against two top drawer teams in Leicester and Wolverhampton Wednesday B. It’s Leicester for me, by the way.
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In Group 24, two other top teams, Ipswich A and Dawley A, are drawn together, and in any other group this would be a tight race between them. But this year the draw has thrown up a group of death to beat any other group of death I have ever seen, because the third team in this little gathering is the mighty Trent Trophies A. Yup, Dawley, Ipswich and Trent Trophies are in the same group! Have you ever heard anything like it? Dear oh dear! How can I not go for Trent Trophies? But then again, if you are going to beat the greatest Interleague team in the history of the world, your best chance is in the group stages, catch them while they are sleeping, and this year they have a group which contains teams they can’t afford to take likely. What’s the betting that if they could have their way, the organisers would put the live streaming onto this table?
The Stoke boys should win, but don’t rule out the upset of the round, and if it does come, I fancy it coming from Ipswich more than from Dawley.
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In Group 25, our friends from Hammersmith and Districts A should wrap up victory against NOPL A and ATPL. I don’t actually know who ATPL are, in fact.
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In Group 26, I fancy Nuneaton A to squeeze through on a tight one with Trent Trophies B. Marlow is the third team.
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Clacton have some decent players and so does Reds I, from Coventry. The Reds boys either blow hot or cold, never lukewarm, so it depends which team turns up. I think they should have enough to win this group, with Glossop third.
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For me, Leeds will be happy enough with Group 28. They will win ahead of Easington and then Luton Elite once again failing to live up to the Elite tag.
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I really don’t know what’s going on in Group 29. Every team seems to have changed its name. It makes it hard to know which team is which. I fancy Notts Supreme to be the former Nottingham A, and if they are, they should see off Bilston Superleague, a West Midlands team with some young talent in it. That leaves Diss Wizards looking less than magical.
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Group 30 is weak, by the standards of others. Riverside might be the team to beat. The Herts boys should see off Brighton B, while Stowmarket are newcomers to this arena, and to be honest, they should think themselves lucky to get a group like this.
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Group 31 is very tight. Ultimately, I think Lancaster has the form to win it, but Bedford’s A team, Meltis Club, are decent, and who can ever rule out Hertfordshire’s EHPL?
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Finally, Group 32 boasts Wigan, who should win the group, ahead of Witney Snooker B and Medway B.
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I don’t know if it’s just me, but maybe we are seeing the end of the era of ‘super-teams’, because for once, I can’t list the usual half-dozen to ten teams that actually have a chance. I can only name three (and Leicester isn’t one of them!). The defending champs, PJ’s Stourbridge, can never be discounted, but my gut tells me they won’t keep the trophy. It’s between the mighty Trent Trophies and the sublime Preston South, who are so desperate to get over that nearly-man tag. Given how difficult Trent Trophies’s group is, and thus the percentage chance of them getting through, I would, if I were a betting man, have to put my money on Preston South to lift the Interleague trophy for 2011. But don’t quote me on that!
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The Doctor
March 2011
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The Doctor's Surgery - October 2010
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Here it is – the moment all you pool fans have been waiting for! It’s been all of six months since the last Doctor’s Surgery, and if you’ve been suffering from withdrawal symptoms since then, you really need to get a life.
But with Yarmouth upon us shortly, duty and tradition dictate that I once again embarrass myself by making my predictions for the forthcoming Interleague Knockout Cup. Bear in mind, both Waterloo teams are in action having finished first and third in the London Cup, and skippers Jerry T and myself probably both feel that we are going up there armed with our strongest teams ever. Both teams could go a long way, so, as if to make us work hard for the glory, we have both been given tough draws in the group stages.
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Waterloo begins its efforts to improve on the excellent result of getting to the last-sixteen (and losing only 10-8 to Leicester) in April in Group 25, in the company of Derbyshire’s Corn Exchange and Lye and Stourbridge from the West Midlands. This group is a two-horse race. Lye and Stourbridge have been turning up for years, but it has been over a decade since they did anything of note. Previously solid quarter-final material, they may have suffered from the successes of neighbours such as PJ’s and have struggled to get out of the groups in recent campaigns. Corn Exchange, by contrast, are on the up – Waterloo played them once before, when they were called McCluskey’s, but both teams have improved dramatically since then. Corn Exchange boasts the best of Derbyshire A. I still think Waterloo will win the group but it won’t be easy.
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I wish I could be confident about Waterloo 2’s chances – and I am, in my own way – but I have to be objective here and to be fair, Preston South start as runaway favourites to win Group 3. They have finished runner-up in two of the last three Yarmouth events, both times losing out on play-offs (to Sun Valley and Trent Trophies A). They have international superstars like Gareth Hibbott and Lee Clough. But Big Willy has already laid down the marker with his recent comment that the Blackpool Tower (Clough) is going to come unstuck against the Tower of London! That’s the spirit. Fortunately we will have the chance to watch our opponents play each other in the group opener – that’s the Preston superstars and another decent team, NCPLE A from Northants (formerly known as Northants County and Pocket Rockets B). Don’t rule these guys out – they got to the quarter-finals in April. By any reckoning, we have the least pedigree in the group, but we also have one helluva squad, so there’s no way we’re cannon fodder. If the boys take their chances we could cause a real upset in this group.
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What about the rest of the room?
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Group 1 sees defending champs Sun Valley of Nottinghamshire in action against perennial contenders Wigan. Wigan is no pushover, but Sun Valley is a champion team and should win. Whoever the Cambridge Bruvs are (I have totally lost track of which Cambridge team is which – there have been so many different ones over the years), I suspect they will be outclassed.
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Group 2 has three evenly matched teams in Surrey’s Premier, Oxfordshire’s Witney and Derbyshire’s Glossop. No superstars here but all experienced teams – my money is on Witney, which has a little more firepower.
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Group 4 should be easy pickings for Ipswich A. Always nearly there, they don’t have the look of champions but they do have enough to see off Beverley Town and the inappropriately named Luton Elite which usually struggles to finish anything but last in its groups.
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Group 5 sees the debut of Newport (IoW), the first team from the Isle of Wight I can ever remember playing at Yarmouth (the county will be joining Region 7 next year so we’ll get to know these guys). Good luck to them but I doubt they will get out of the groups. Having said that, neither Milton Keynes C nor Chelmsford are world-beaters. This is a pretty low-status group, to be fair. On a toss of the coin I will go for Chelmsford.
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Group 6 doesn’t throw up any big guns either. I fancy Lancaster to win, ahead of Maidenhead C and Notts and District.
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Group 7 contains more pedigree. Lancashire’s Accrington (formerly Hyndburn) is the obvious pick, but on its day Surrey’s Croydon A can do some damage, and both Waterloo teams have been on the losing end of matches against Norwich B, so this is a tight one indeed.
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Kent’s Medway still benefits from the break-up of mighty Rochester and that should see them home in Group 8, where their opposition is provided by Cambridgeshire journeymen St Neots and Shropshire’s Shrewsbury B.
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Group 9 features Warwickshire’s all-star Reds Elite team. In recent years they have posted some disastrous results but they have a decent group this time so I fancy them to see off Oxfordshire’s Bicester Select and Cumbria’s Workington. But it really depends on what kind of mood they are in!
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In Group 10 there are two teams who I know nothing about – they may be new names or they may be new teams altogether. There’s Liverleague (presumably from Liverpool?) and NOPL A. Given that I know nothing about them I will opt for Gravesham to squeeze this unimpressive group.
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My tip for Group 11 is Kent’s steady Romney Marsh A side, although both Mid-Sussex and Derbyshire’s Fritchley have shown us in recent years that they have potential. It’s just that Romney Marsh rarely lose out in groups they should win.
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Group 12 contains one of the big names in the draw – East Herts. Of course, this new East Herts team is the former Riverside Elite, and I suspect it also contains some names from the old East Herts glory days, probably including a handful of familiar ex-London players now housed back in Hertfordshire and playing out of Neil’s club. That’s all I need to know about this group. East Herts all the way – which is a shame for Afford who did well last time out and are starting to break out of the shadow of their neighbour Trent Trophies. Witney Snooker A, from Oxfordshire, is new to this set-up and will struggle in this interesting group.
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Group 13 gives us a tight one between Chesterfield and the Surrey Warriors. There’s nothing to call between these teams, and that leaves Brighton B out in the cold. I will put my money on Chesterfield who are just that little bit more solid.
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Group 14 is not that impressive, as it contains Oldham B, Bull’s Head (I think a Bradford team) and Portsmouth Shearer (who have not been here for many years). In the absence of any real contender I will be bullish about the chances of Bull’s Head.
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Another hard one to call is Group 15. The Stockport Sharks are up against Nottingham and Ipswich B. I think the Sharks will win this, as Nottingham tends to struggle and Ipswich’s second team can’t match anything like the quality of its first team.
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No question about Group 16 though – the mighty Trent Trophies A, about whom I can run out of superlatives, should make mincemeat of the decent EHPL from Hertfordshire and Kettering Town from Northants.
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Our good friends in Battersea may think they have been given a good draw in Group 17, where their opponents are CWPL and Northwich B. I do think they have the firepower to see off Northwich B (assuming they field enough players!), but CWPL should not be taken lightly. For those not in the know, this team used to be known as Colchester. Yes, that’s it – Colchester, the very loud team in grey which has twice knocked Trent Trophies out of the group stages and once reached a Yarmouth final. Objectively, they have to start as firm favourites. Good luck to Battersea though!
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Another Stockport team, the Aces, lines up in Group 18 against Cannock Chase and Dinnington. I don’t know whether the Aces are better or worse than the Sharks, nor do I know whether Cannock Chase has anything to do with twice former Yarmouth champions (albeit a long long time ago) Cannock, but I do know that the underassuming Derbyshire team Dinnington got to the semi-finals a couple of years’ back and are always there or thereabouts. Their experience should see them through.
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On to Group 19, where PJ’s Stourbridge stand head and shoulders above the competition. PJ’s used to be the best team never to have won a title, until April when they finished off old rivals Trent Trophies in the final to make the big breakthrough. Could that be the start of a glorious era for them? Yes or no, the fact is they won’t be too afraid of perennial tryers City of Leicester and unknowns Whitecliffs Dover.
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Tolworth, Surrey’s best, always feature in my selection of possible winners, but they have yet to taste that kind of glory. This might be their year, and they should start off by making light work in Group 20 of Worthing from Sussex and Riley’s Coventry, although this latter team is new to me and its relationship to other Coventry teams is not clear.
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Somerset’s Weston A is another top team with a fine pedigree. It is hard to bet against them in Group 21, although they are occasionally known to slip on an early banana skin. Will that banana skin be Hammersmith and District A? Possibly. Or might it be Alsager, from Staffordshire? Unlikely. The smart money is on the Weston boys.
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Leicester, along with Trent Trophies and PJ’s the other one of the big three, is usually nailed on favourite to win its group, but what a draw it has been given this time in Group 22 – Norman’s Elite, who shocked everyone a couple of years’ back by winning in its first Yarmouth final. Then, the Rochdale team upset Dawley and Ipswich in the final two rounds, and in doing so established itself as one of the leading teams in the competition, although it hasn’t looked like a potential champ since then. On its day though it can beat anyone, as has been proved. My gut tells me to stick with Leicester for the group win though. Meltis Club, the team formerly known as Bedford A, have been here a few times before, and will be cursing their luck with this horrible draw.
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Dawley start as favourites in Group 23. They may struggle against Waterloo teams but the Shropshire outfit nearly always gets to the latter stages and remains one of the top teams in the country. Having said that, East Leeds has been to the latter stages as well and could catch Dawley, which is notoriously slow out of the starting gate, napping. Portsmouth probably don’t have the calibre to keep up with these two teams.
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In Group 24, we have two teams who can do very well indeed but for different reasons usually don’t. There’s Milton Keynes A, which has an absolute plethora of talent but has somehow underachieved to record proportions. Then there’s Coventry’s Reds I, which has plenty of attitude but usually gets drawn in a group with the likes of Leicester. This time round both teams will fancy their chances, and both will be quick to dismiss the Vale of Belvoir about whom I know nothing. I have a feeling that Reds I will emerge victorious in this group.
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Group 26 doesn’t make me salivate with excitement, so the best I can say is that Nuneaton A has a wealth of experience at this level and should use that to good advantage in seeing off Thurmaston and CLHPL A (a team I don’t recognise under this name).
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Norwich A are one of those teams I think, given a good draw and a few upsets for the big names, could go all the way. Make no mistake, they are a tasty outfit. I am confident they will win Group 27 ahead of perennial journeymen Howden and making-up-the-numbers Dawley B.
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In Group 28 another London team, Frank Smith PL, makes its return to Yarmouth. Now, as we all know, this is not the same Frank Smith team that used to contain London’s very best – that team folded. This is a team representing the actual Frank Smith league and I don’t recall this league being represented since the end of the last millennium. They have actually been given a decent draw as well – Walsall are nowhere near as potent as their wealth of experience might suggest, and Barnsley Monday are unknown to me. I think Frank Smith can win this group if they apply themselves, but in the name of objectivity I will say that the favourite is Walsall.
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There are no big guns in Group 29 although Surrey’s Godalming usually have a decent run. That’s why I fancy them to win this group, ahead of Halifax A and Weston B. I might sneak a look at this group and chat to some of the Halifax players – they may need a good new player and I might have just the man for them (Sick Note, now relocated to the Halifax area).
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There’s a mouth-watering encounter in Group 30 – Wolverhampton Wednesday B, who can never be ruled out and have more than established themselves as a team in their own right since the dissolution many years ago of their ‘A’ team (most of whom joined PJ’s), take on Leeds. We got to see Leeds up close in April and they were OK, but they couldn’t pull it together enough to win the group then so there are doubts about their consistency. While I will rule out Lowestoft Town, who are no bad team, I’m not sure who the favourites here should be – but I will go for Leeds.
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In Group 31 - Brighton A return to Yarmouth after a brief absence. This is another of the great teams, but they have yet to emerge as champions despite some terrific performances. They are up against South Norfolk, a very tasty team, and Renegade A, Berkshire’s finest. Now this is what I call a group of death! For years I have been picking Renegade as a dark horse, and they always let me down, but this year I can only predict a fruitless Yarmouth, given the quality of the opposition. It was South Norfolk who won the group Waterloo II was in back in April, seeing us off 10-8 and then beating Leeds. In my two frames against them I got one shot – a dry break in the first frame. After that I got dished up and then in my second frame broke-dished by Carl Clack. South Norfolk oozes talent and Brighton can’t afford to take them lightly. This group is so worth watching if you are a neutral – there are many big names on show, and the quality of pool should be first rate. I’ll go for Brighton A but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if South Norfolk did the business.
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The tournament ends with Group 32, and this is another quite group. For me, Whitehaven, which I believe is from Cumbria, has the edge on its rivals. The Leicester Bulls are another decent team from that hot-bed of pool which usually fields so many teams, while Lord Nelson A are totally new to me.
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So, now I have to pick a winner. There are some teams here I think might well cause some surprises, not least Norwich A and Tolworth, while defending champs Sun Valley and newly re-empowered East Herts can’t be ruled out, and – if they are fortunate enough to get out of the group stages – Preston South must be among the real contenders, but if you are a picking a winner, you’d be unlikely to look outside the big three. Can PJ’s repeat their magnificent achievement from April? Can Leicester get themselves back on the winner’s podium? Can Trent Trophies A out the disappointment of letting the final slip away from them six months ago?
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To be honest, if it weren’t for the fact that they are playing us in the group I might be tempted to pick Preston South to finally win a final at its third time of asking, and certainly I would currently rate them ahead of Leicester, but I just can’t bring myself to do that. You can’t blame me for that! So there’s only one winner for me: Trent Trophies A.
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Boring prediction? Yes, I know – but I rarely opt for them, and it is worth remembering that the tournament isn’t usually that ‘open’ to outsiders (Normans Elite notwithstanding). They rarely go a year without winning one of the Yarmouths, so I don’t see why this year should be an exception.
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Last words – best of luck to all London teams! The draw has not been supremely kind to us, but we know we have the talent, so let’s show it!
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Game on!
The Doctor
September 27th 2010
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The Doctor’s Surgery - April 2010
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Yarmouth is upon us again and as usual, it falls to me to present my predictions of how the event is likely to go. All the big guns are there in an exciting looking line-up – there’s Trent Trophies A, Leicester, PJ’s Stourbridge, Sun Valley, Dawley A, Preston South, Tolworth, Ipswich, and of course surprise defending champions Norman’s Elite. Of course, both Waterloo teams will be in action and I know everyone out there will be wishing us the best of luck(!).
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We’ve had mixed fortunes in the draw, it has to be said. Waterloo I has been given some tough groups over the years but this time round they seem to have been given a group, playing over on Table 19, which should present them with little to fear. I mean no disrespect to Witney, a team from Oxfordshire who have been coming here for years, or indeed to Leyland, about whom I know nothing, but I would be surprised if Waterloo didn’t start as firm favourites to progress.
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Waterloo II, meanwhile, has a more difficult challenge ahead, faced as it is with Leeds and South Norfolk. Playing in Group 12, they should expect no quarter from either opponent. Leeds has been blessed with a fair few star names over the years, and though it is doubtful that Darren Appleton will be lining up for them this time, there’s no reason to presume that Andy Richardson and Rob Wilson won’t be. South Norfolk may have fewer stars but their consistency has been far better than that of Leeds in recent years and this team comprised of Norfolk A players will probably be slight favourites to win the group.
So on behalf of Waterloo II, I can proudly cry, “bring ‘em on”!
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OK then, what about the rest of the groups? As usual the defending champions begin in Group 1 and this year that honour goes to Norman’s Elite from Rochdale. Last year they came through as a total surprise package to win the tournament at the expense of Dawley in the semi-finals and Ipswich in the final. This year they will have higher expectations placed upon them and might find the going tough, but even so I expect them to take control of their group. Lowestoft Town Select are hardy veterans but hardly world-beaters and Widnes are an unknown quantity to me.
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Group 2 won’t set too many hearts racing but it should provide Yorkshire’s Dinnington with the chance for a welcome return to form. Penrith are capable but in a modest way, while Mid-Sussex will struggle in this group.
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Ipswich line up on Table 3, hoping to go one better than they did last year. Whitehaven, from Cumbria, will give them a tough time of it, though. The third team in this group is Luton Elite which, to be fair, has never really done anything to earn that ‘elite’ tag.
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Group 4 is one of those groups which the draw throws up each year, the kind of draw which leaves other teams begging for a piece of the action. Long Eaton, Eccles and Littlehampton A hardly strike fear in anyone. Long Eaton, from Derbyshire, will be my pick to win this group. They used to play pretty well here but seem to have been irregular visitors in recent years. This may be the year they bounce back.
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All eyes, though, will be on Table 5, where the mighty Trent Trophies will be beginning their campaign against Premier Pool League and Riverside. Trent Trophies went without a trophy last year, and will be itching to end that bad run. They should cruise through this group, with Premier pipping Riverside for second, although the lads from Neil Toms’s club will want to prove me wrong.
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Our friends from SLK make their Yarmouth debut on Table 6. They’re here because Barnet pulled out but will want to show they deserve the honour. Sadly for them I think they will find the going tough. They have Clacton, from Essex, and Dawley B in their group. They might give Dawley B a decent game, but I think Clacton will be beyond them.
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Group 7 features Nuneaton A, Norwich B and Croydon B. I don’t know who is in Croydon B but I know enough about the other two teams to know they are very capable. Nuneaton A has the bigger pedigree and I think they will wrap this group up.
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Two teams stand out as contesting Group 8 – Chesterfield and Reds I. Reds I always give a good account of themselves but over the years they have had some rotten draws and been pipped at the post by teams of the calibre of Leicester. Chesterfield is no Leicester but they are one of the most experienced and consistent teams going. I think Chesterfield will win and Reds I will be cursing their luck again. CWPLA are unknown to me so I can only assume they will be the bottom team here.
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Tolworth has, in the past, been my pick for the whole tournament. Last year I fancied they would do well on the back of Surrey’s win in the national inter-county finals. They didn’t perform as well as I expected, but they are still a decent dark horse. Having said that, they are drawn into a group with Wolverhampton B, a team which always performs well and is more than used to playing on the Sunday. Theirs should be a good crack, leaving City of Leicester, a decent team, off the pace in this difficult Group 9.
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Our friends from JFK’s begin their last ever trip to Yarmouth by taking on Bilston and NOCPLE in Group 10. This should be an absolute cake-walk for them. They are brimming with confidence after winning the inter-county championships as London A (most of them). Expect great things from Jack Pople, Neil Toms, Dean Wisher and the rest of the boys. Bilston should take second spot.
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Preston South are playing in Group 11 and they must be desperate to get their names on a trophy after finishing runner-up in the October Interleague Cup finals for the past two years. But Punchbowl from South Yorkshire will be no punching bags, they have a fair few big names and veteran stars of their own. Folkestone A, no bad team by any stretch of the imagination, will be out of their depth here.
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Group 13 should go to the impressive Norwich A. Easington will be second, with Hammersmith B coming in third, but neither team will pose a real threat to the Norfolk team.
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In October, Sun Valley from Nottingham won the Knockout Cup for the second time. With all their experience they should be favourites to win Group 14 but they won’t relish having to take on Accrington, a team made up of various ex-All’oas and other big names from the north-west, who might very well pull off a surprise. Central Cornwall won’t have the firepower to match either team.
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Group 15 is another group with no real stars or contenders. While Amersham have been here before I am not sure they have the experience to mount a real challenge, so it is between the Luton Lions and Cornwall’s Alan Davis. Alan Davis used to be regular visitors to Yarmouth but they don’t seem to have been that regular of late so I am going to plump for Luton, just.
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There is, though, a clear winner in Group 16 – the mighty Leicester. They’ve drifted off the pace in recent years, from that time when it looked like they and Trent Trophies would be contesting every major final going. Whether or not Mark Selby makes the trip, the team should still have enough firepower to see off Crawley and Taunton LVA B. Incidentally, when I first drew up my orders I had Taunton ahead of Crawley, because having seen them in action I fancied them to be a decent side, but then I noticed this was Taunton’s B team, so I reversed my decision.
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Group 17 is an enigma to me. On the one hand, there is Howden, a team with a vast amount of experience. Then, there is Cambridge WMC. Now, teams from Cambridge come and go quicker than Alex Lawrence at the bar, so I have no way of knowing whether the WMC includes any ‘elite’ players (Cambridgeshire has plenty of them, they used to play for Cambridge Elitie) or just journeymen (a la Cambridge SC, Cambridge KSR etc). So I will opt for Howden, just. Stockport Demons are clear underdogs.
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In Group 18, Lye and Stourbridge, a regular group winner and medium-ranked team, have the edge for me, although Meltis Club have been here before and might have improved. I can’t see Dorking finishing any higher than third in this group.
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Group 20 presents us with two seasoned veterans in Leicester City and Northampton’s NVPL A, plus one new team in Davy Lamp A. As I know nothing about the Davy Lamps (who sound like they should come from Cornwall!) I will leave them out and concentrate on the other two. I always think NVPL A will do better than they actually do so this year I won’t bother, Leicester City is Leicester’s second best team and that makes them as good as the best teams from many a major city.
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In Group 21 I think the Surrey Warriors will come through at the expense of Trent Trophies B, but it will be a tough encounter between the two teams. Weston C will be last.
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Another Trent Trophies feeder team, Afford, lines up in Group 22 along with Regency and Shrewsbury B. There’s no obvious winner here but I am opting for Shrewsbury B, who are a capable side, to edge out Afford, with Regency last.
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East Yorkshire’s veterans Driffield are my tip for Group 23, ahead of Raywood and Shildon respectively. I can’t see the tournament winner coming from this group though.
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Table 24 presents us with an interesting clash between East Leeds and Northwich, two teams who have punched above their weight in recent years. Northwich have been the more consistent but I fancy East Leeds to find the strength to pull this one out of the bag. Leicester Bulls are not one of the stronger Leicester teams and will come last.
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Bracknell and Ascot A is my pick for Group 25. The Berkshire outfit has some decent young players. Bicester Select, though, is Oxfordshire’s finest so they will make it tough. The third team here is Bull’s Head ST, about whom I know nothing.
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Table 26 sees PJ’s Stourbridge bouncing into action. Still waiting for their first ever tournament win in the Interleague or Knockout Cup, they’ll be hoping this is their team, and if they bring the big guns – Mick Hill, Rob Chilton and so on – they will be in with a shout. Pity Kendal and the Stockport Aces who will be playing bridesmaid in this group.
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Kettering are old hands and will be favourites for Group 27, but I wouldn’t rule out Barnsley’s Miscues who have some decent players from the halcyon days of South Yorkshire pool. Herne Bay A are first-timers and will struggle in this group.
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In Group 28, Weston A starts its challenge. For years a genuine contender, Weston has somewhat disappointed its supporters but it is by no means past its best. Having said that, they won’t be happy at being drawn in a group of death with Wigan, another great name in the game, and a team of roughly equal standing to Weston. I think Weston will squeeze this but it will be tight. Alsager will be last in the group.
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Group 29 is another one of those uneventful groups. There’s the St Albans Saints, a team which always comes and rarely stays long, plus Bramley, a team no doubt made up of capable West Yorkshire folk, and Calverton and Arnold, a team from Nottinghamshire who used to do really well at Yarmouth but then seemed to stop coming. Well, given that they are back, I will plump for Calverton and Arnold in this group.
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Of the three teams in Group 30, one takes my eye very sharply. That team is Peterborough, which boasts current English national champion John Roe plus a bunch of other top tour players. I think they will win this group easily. That would leave Barking Phoenix, one of the better known names in the game, a distant second. Barking Phoenix no longer shine as brightly as they once did, but they should have enough in them to see off first timers Inter-Pub (an interesting name for a team, but it tells me nothing about who they are or where they come from!).
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Any long-time fan of Interleague would look at Group 31 and smile, because it contains three of the biggest names in the history of the competition. There’s Dawley A, ever-present, former champions, last year’s semi-finalists (despite only squeezing out of their group after a 9-9 draw with Waterloo II), and always there or thereabouts. But then there’s Ollerton, Nottinghamshire’s other great team which made a fair few finals back in the day. And to cap it off, there’s Morley International. OK, it’s Morley International B. And given how poorly Morley International A performed last year (you’d think that name would have been given special protected status, in honour of the team that became Triangle), I can’t imagine the B team is much to shout about. And to be fair, I can’t see Ollerton achieving much either, as it has been a while since they were contenders. Over to you, Dawley …
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And finally, Group 32. Here we have Corn Exchange, from Derbyshire, Romney Marsh, from Kent, and the Stockport Sharks, who I think are Stockport’s number one team. Well, Corn Exchange always do well and this should be no exception. I fancy them to win the group which will be tough for Romney Marsh who usually acquit themselves respectably. That leaves the Sharks sitting at the bottom of the ocean.
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So, who do I think will win the whole thing, assuming neither Waterloo team does? Will it be another surprise winner, like last year when Norman’s Elite shocked the big guns and denied Ipswich their first major trophy? Would you like me to name a similar dark horse, just in case the usual suspects fall on banana skins? OK, I will – two come to mind: Norwich A, and, especially, Peterborough. Watch out for both of them.
In fact I think I will end this by giving you my top ten picks for the title, in reverse order, just for a bit of fun. In truth any one of these can win it, but only one of them will.
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10: Weston A (always contenders, capable of a good run)
9: Dawley A (semi-final almost guaranteed, but have they still got what it takes to win?)
8: Tolworth (Surrey’s finest are due a win and one has to come eventually)
7: Peterborough (more than just dark horses in my eyes)
6: Leicester (sixth would have been unthinkable a couple of years back, but have they lost their winning ways?)
5: Sun Valley (proved they are more than one-win wonders in October, but have they got it in them to win two on the spin?)
4: PJ’s Stourbridge (every year I call them to win or to be in the top three, but I’ve seen them under-achieve, crack under pressure at the business end, too many times)
3: Trent Trophies A (only third, that’s a tough call, I agree, but even though they remain the best team in the history of Yarmouth, getting back into winning ways doesn’t come by magic)
2: Preston South (twice runners-up in October, they are really due a bit of luck to help them become champions, and they will certainly have the fire in their bellies for it)
1: JFK’s (as Frank Smith and JFK’s they have excelled over the years reaching many semi-finals, and at the moment, after that inter-county success, they are playing better as a team, man for man, than anyone else in the country – this will be their last Yarmouth as the team has now disbanded, but what a way to go by winning the trophy!)
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Am I right? Time will tell.
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The Doctor
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The Doctor’s Surgery - October 2009
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The Doctor himself is under medical care at the moment, so the best laid plans to present another detailed pre-Yarmouth report with predictions over the weekend have had to be shelved – the best I can do is give you my quick thoughts on group order, which I hope Webmaster Alan is able to get up in time for the main event. You’ll know that Waterloo is drawn in a group with Dawley, one of the country’s top teams and semi-finalists back in April. It will be hard and Dawley will be firm favourites (especially if they bring out the big guns, as feared) but bear in mind Waterloo II took them to a 9-9 draw back in April in the group stages, after leading 9-7, so if Waterloo hits them early and gets them worried, they could spring a surprise. Both teams should beat Luton Elite, which despite being a capable side has yet to live up to that ‘elite’ tag.
As for the other groups, bearing in mind that there are plenty of new teams playing this year, and no doubt some new names for old teams making them tough to call, here goes:
Group 1
A clear favourite here, but the battle for second place will be interesting:
1. Trent Trophies A
2. Cherry Tree
3. Bicester Select
Group 2
This one has three evenly matched teams, so it is a tough call but I will go for the Surridge connection:
1. Worcester Fox U
2. Halifax A
3. Pocket Rockets B
Group 3
This group has one known good team, a dark horse, and two lesser known outfits:
1. South Norfolk
2. Halifax B
3. Hull
Group 4
A tight battle for top spot, leaving the Surrey side in the cold:
1. Norwich A
2. East Leeds
3. Premier Pool League
Group 5
Not a strong group, and Northampton’s best might squeeze it, but the Sharks could surprise:
1. NVPL A
2. Stockport Sharks
3. Hinckley
Group 6
If Barnsley have ex-Sheffield and Misfits players they should have enough to qualify:
1. Barnsley
2. Andover
3. Beverley A
Group 7
Wigan will be delighted with this group:
1. Wigan
2. Ipswich B
3. Thurmaston
Group 8
One team has a stronger pedigree than another, the third has none at all:
1. Nuneaton Lions
2. Gosport B
3. Meltis Club
Group 9
Q Club had a great run on their debut, and now they play two debutants:
1. Q Club
2. Mid-Sussex
3. Belle Vue
Group 10
Reds Elite should end their miserable spell of recent group defeats and under-achievements:
1. Reds Elite
2. Bognor Regis
3. Leyland
Group 11
A very tight group, which the Warriors might just edge:
1. Surrey Warriors
2. Medway
3. Penrith
Group 12
Rob Hill’s Essex team should win, while Ollerton, once giants, are back after years in the wilderness:
1. Braintree
2. EHPL
3. Ollerton
Group 13
Tight group, but Wednesday’s recent form suggests they start as favourites against perennial underachievers Renegade:
1. Wolverhampton Wednesday B
2. Renegade A
3. Workington
Group 14
Another very tight group, and Reds I deserve a win (they aren’t drawn against Leicester this time, so good luck to Roger Charles’s hard workers); Mind you, Ely boast the current world champion, a certain Mr Farmer Phil:
1. Reds I
2. Ely
3. Lowestoft Town Select
Group 15
The North Londoners do well at Yarmouth, and should continue to do so in this winnable group:
1. Barnet
2. Bracknell and Ascot A
3. Brighton M
Group 16
The Derbyshire dark horses have the edge in this group for me:
1. Corn Exchange
2. Worcester Dream Team
3. Folkestone A
Group 17
The group of death; Ipswich reached the final back in April, but may go out in the group stages this time if Tolworth bring their best game; Poor Romney Marsh are no bad side at all:
1. Tolworth
2. Ipswich
3. Romney Marsh
Group 18
No problems, touch wood, for London’s number one team, formerly Frank Smith:
1. JFK’s
2. Brighton B
3. Witney
Group 19
A straightforward start for Nottingham’s former champions:
1. Sun Valley
2. Gosport A
3. Milton Keynes C
Group 20
Not a terrific group on paper, but it might be one of those good, tight, occasionally scrappy ones to watch, and Eccles may have enough grit to win it:
1. Eccles
2. Leicester City
3. Nottingham
Group 21
This all depends on which of the many Cambridge teams is currently calling itself Mickey Flynn’s – if it is the Elite team, the result will be very different:
1. Trent Trophies B
2. Hammersmith
3. Cambridge Mickey Flynn’s
Group 22
Never rule out Preston South, who should win this group easily:
1. Preston South
2.Dawley B
3.Maidenhead B
Group 23
Toss a coin to decide which team will win this evenly balanced group:
1. Barking Phoenix
2. St Albans Saints
3. Luton Lions
Group 24
Back after a while, Peterborough might be surprisingly good:
1. Peterborough
2. Deal A
3. Fritchley
Group 25
Of these teams, only Dinnington have any pedigree to speak about:
1. Dinnington
2. St Neots
3. Kirkstead
Group 26 is Waterloo, Dawley and Luton Elite - See Top
Group 27
A good group, which could go all the way:
1. Milton Keynes A
2. Afford A
3. Walsall A
Group 28
PJ’s will win but the opposition this time is very tough:
1. PJ’s Stourbridge
2. Godalming A
3.Netherthorpe
Group 29
Leicester will be very, very pleased with such an easy group:
1. Leicester
2. Shrewsbury B
3. Skegness
Group 30
Sorry Battersea, but you’ve once again drawn a nightmare group, as Darren Collison’s Clacton and veterans Kettering both have reasons to be confident:
1. Clacton
2. Kettering
3. Battersea
Group 31
This group is both relatively weak and quite evenly balanced:
1. Clitheroe
2. MHPL
3. Felixstowe
Group 32
Nuneaton and Whitehaven will contest this one down to the wire:
1. Nuneaton A
2. Whitehaven
3. Weston B
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Champions?
Predicting Interleague pool is like predicting golf. You can’t not say Tiger Woods will start as favourite, of course he will, in every tournament, even though the odds should be against him winning given the size of the field. So, you find yourself saying that while Tiger is the clear favourite, the fun is in picking the player who might win if he doesn’t. The same applies to Trent Trophies A, who by the way have the pleasure of knowing that their banana skins Colchester A are not present to stop them. They should win, but if they slip up, as they have done occasionally in the past, who will rise to the challenge? Normans Elite were surprise winners back in April, but the Rochdale boys are missing from this tournament (as are Brighton A, and Weston A, to name just two).
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So, who’s my tip for the title this time, bearing in mind I acknowledge that Trent Trophies are clear Tiger-style favourites? My money would be on PJ’s Stourbridge. They have never won a Yarmouth trophy, but are one of the handful of truly great teams in the country. They have seen teams with lesser reputations lift the silverware, and they must be absolute committed to tasting that glory themselves. Leicester, JFK’s, Preston South and Tolworth are all in with a shot, in this Doctor’s view. Having said that, Normans Elite showed us that it is possible for an unheralded side to claim a championship, in their case at the expense of Ipswich, whose pedigree suggested they were more ‘due’ the win back in April.
Will we see such a surprise win again? I can’t imagine so, but the game really is getting a lot more open than it was a few years back when I sent in my first Doctor’s Surgery.
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Good luck to the magnificent nine of Jerry, Frank, Alex, Ian, Ian, Joe, Tony, Michael and Will!
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Yours in pool
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The Doctor
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National Interleague at Great Yarmouth - 4th & 5th April 2009:
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The Dr's Surgery is open!!
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It’s great that both Waterloo teams will be back in action at the Big One in April. The teams have both improved a lot over the years so there’s no doubting our potential, what we are lacking of course is a pedigree in these competitions, the kind of pedigree exhibited by superstar teams like Trent Trophies A, Leicester, PJ’s Stourbridge, Imperial / Frank Smith, Brighton, Sheffield and Dawley.
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Waterloo 1 begins its campaign this year in a fantastically exciting group. That’s Group 9, and it also involves Medway and Barking Phoenix.
From an outsider’s point of view, this is a truly interesting set-up – I imagine each rival captain read the draw and said the same thing: “If we play the way we know we can, we can win this group, but if we don’t, so can either of the other teams.” There is little to split the three of them. Pedigree goes with Barking Phoenix, but they have a tendency to underachieve, and have lived for too long in the shadow of their defunct offspring, the Elite. Medway, meanwhile, are the custodians of the Rochester legacy, but Rochester is no more and some of their top players have opted to return to the host team. Having said that, not all of them have, which makes things unpredictable … You’d have to prize this group open with a knife, but hopefully that will give Waterloo 1 that extra bit of drive to come out and win the group.
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If that group is the epitome of equilibrium, Group 2, which includesWaterloo 2, is a masterclass in polarisation, at least on paper. After all,Dawley A are former champions (and I remember us playing them before, back when there was just the one Waterloo team, God they are a noisy bunch!). By contrast I have never heard of Fritchley, no idea where they come from, and have no way of really rating them. On paper they are underdogs (damned paper), while Waterloo 2 sits in the middle of these two on the form charts.
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So much for us, what about the rest? Let’s take a walk around the tables and see what the action is like.
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Group 1, which always contains the defending champion, is this year’s group of death, the only real superstar group of the draw. The unbeatable Trent Trophies A should win it, but both Leeds and Colchester A can hold their own. If Leeds have their star players, like Daz Appleton and Rob Wilson and Andy Richardson, they could shock the Stoke potters, which would make life difficult for Colchester A. But it wasn’t too long ago that Colchester beat Trent Trophies A in the group stages and Leicester in the semi-finals on their way to a Yarmouth final, which they lost to Sun Valley. They’ve not scaled those heights since, but they are good, and the noise from Table 1 (we were playing close by the last time Colchester played Trent Trophies, and they knew how to cheer on their boys, that’s for sure!) might prove distracting to the Waterloo 2 boys playing next door. In any case, Trent Trophies remain the team of the moment. Gareth Potts, Adam Davis, Lee Kendall, Darren Shone and the others really do enjoy Yarmouth, and it’s not necessarily because of the strippers on Saturday night!
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Group 3 has no such glamour. Gravesham A, Milton Keynes C and Witney have nothing to call between them. I opt for Gravesham A to squeeze this one ahead of Witney, with the Bucks boys coming in last.
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Group 4 features our London colleagues Barnet, and I expect them to win the group. Neither Leek B nor Gloucester has the firepower to match them. Leek should pip Gloucester for second place.
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Beverley A are not a tremendous side but they should win Group 5 ahead of Dover and Bideford.
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Nuneaton A should squeeze Group 6 ahead of City of Leicester, and thenHalifax A.
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Back in October, Reds Elite from Coventry lost to both PJ’s Stourbridge and Waterloo. The former was expected, the latter wasn’t. Even so, they should bounce back to hammer their opponents in Group 7. Wolverhampton Wednesday B and Central Cornwall. Wednesday should draw on their vast experience in the comp to come second ahead of the Cornishmen who are new to the event.
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Twice champs Leicester will cruise Group 8. Tommy Donlon, Tom Ford, Vinny Allen, oh, and Mark Selby … Coventry’s Reds I ran Leicester close in a group match last year, and they will fancy another shot at the big boys, but the best they can legitimately hope for is second, ahead of Leek A, a decent team, in third.
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Tolworth, with Steve Petty and Frank Strivens among the stars, are one of the best teams going. They form the backbone of the Surrey A and B sides which dominated the recent inter-county finals, and they are runaway favourites for Group 10, which leaves dark horses Crewe – previous giant-killers here – out in the cold. Against such opposition perennial hopefuls Leicester City have no chance.
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Wigan and Dinnington contest Group 11. I think Wigan will win but Dinnington’s form recently has been top drawer and a semi-final last year was no fluke. Walsall A also has a top pedigree in this competition, but I can’t see them making any dents in either Wigan or Dinnington this year.
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Then, in Group 12, I think and hope the under-achieving Milton Keynes A will win the group, with the Luton Lions beating Hammersmith for second spot.
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Sun Valley have a top record and are among the country’s best teams. With Baydon Jackson and Clint I’Anson in their line-up they have earned that accolade. The Nottingham outfit should ease past Cambridge WMC and Shrewsbury B in Group 13, with Cambridge my tip for second place because there are many decent players in Cambridge even if this isn’t the elite team from that city.
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Group 14 gives one of the great under-achievers, Croydon, a chance to shine. They could and should have enough to beat Cornwall’s Allan Davis, but I think the Cornishmen will be able to see off Biggleswade for second place.
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There’s a name in Group 15 which should scare everyone – Morley International. Now, this may or may not be the same team that became Triangle and briefly dominated Interleague pool, but let’s be honest, no team bearing that name can be ignored. So, for me, it’s Morley ahead of Cumbria’sWhitehaven, and newcomers Easington easily last.
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One of my dark horses every year is Renegade A from Berkshire, but they rarely show their full potential. I still think they should win Group 16 but they cannot afford to be below par as Chorlton, from Greater Manchester, is a decent team. It will pounce on any bad performances from Renegade so they will need to be on form. Burnley are the outsiders in this group.
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Preston South finally made a final, and what a final, last October, so at last they can be legitimately ranked among the country’s elite. Make no mistake, they are contenders, with Gareth Hibbott and Lee Clough playing so bloody well, which makes veteran campaigners Lye and Stourbridge, plus underdogs Medway B, cannon fodder in Group 17.
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Brighton A are a top team, with Morray Dolan and all that, but they have a tough draw in Derby’s Corn Exchange. This could be a cracker, as Corn Exchange are past masters at upsetting ‘better’ teams. I’ll go for Brighton, of course – how couldn’t I? – but it will be close. Riverside, which plays from Neil Toms’s club in Ware but doesn’t boast that kind of professional talent in its team, will struggle in this company. This is Group 18.
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I’ll go for Kettering in Group 19, ahead of the Leicester Lions and thenPremier Pool League. Kettering aren’t as strong as they used to be but experience should see them through here.
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Oxfordshire’s Bicester Select are my tip for Group 20. It’s not a great group but I think they have the ammo to beat St Albans Saints into second place, and Eccles into third.
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Group 21 is a real underdog cracker, with three good if unspectacular teams battling it out, in the form of Bracknell and Ascot A, St Johns andRomney Marsh. Sheer grittiness means I am going for Romney, never a team of superstars but always good group performers. St Johns (the Surridge family) should get second ahead of Bracknell.
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Ipswich have lost some players recently but they should still win Group 22, ahead of Dawley B and Folkestone A in that order.
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Weston-super-Mare is a surprisingly good breeding ground for pool players andWeston A have established themselves as a top team, so they should win Group 23. I don’t know how to call second place, with Lowestoft Town Select battling it out with Norman’s Elite, so a toss of the coin gives it to Lowestoft.
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Chesterfield will win Group 24. Brighton B are good, and so are Stafford A, but I predict the group to end up in that order.
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Group 25 is almost impossible to call. Pocket Rockets B are not a B team at all but some of Northamptonshire’s finest, Andover could be any one of two teams bearing that name, and Worcester Fox are unknown to me. Hmm – let’s go for Andover, ahead of the Rockets.
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In Group 26, we see Trent Trophies’ feeder league, Afford, staking its own claim, and I think it will do a decent job if it. Northampton Village Pool League A has been coming to Yarmouth for years and shouting out to observers that it has dark horse potential, but it always lacks the killer bite, and for me Afford have too much experience. I think Afford with outdo NVPL A. Regency have not been at the finals for years. How good are they? I don’t know.
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Group 27 also contains an excellent line-up. These are mainly near-but-not-near-enough teams. Ely have the best pedigree, with Phil the Farmer in the team. Clacton A, though, have some stars of their own, not least Darren Collison. Then there are the Surrey Warriors, one of the top 30 teams in the country. Surrey will be mightily unlucky to come in last in this tight group.
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Yorkshire’s Punchbowl are worth a look as they are one of the Sheffield offspring. This team should field Terry Hunt, John Waller and Phil Cartwright so I fancy them to beat Taunton LVA in Group 28, with Tolworth II trailing in third place.
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In Group 29 we have another offspring of a famous parent in the form ofAccrington, whose team is comprised largely of former All’oas. I fancy the Lancastrians to beat the White Rose OAPs in a good old fashioned War of the Roses, with Derby likely to be last in this group.
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Birmingham’s vastly experienced Small Heath, perennial campaigners and always a threat, will win Group 30, with the Nuneaton Lions finishing aboveCrawley in second spot.
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Braintree A is another Essex team with a secret weapon – Rob Hill. Will he be playing? That might prove to be the decisive factor in Group 31, as they face an intriguing clash with the impressive South Norfolk. Let’s assume he will be and go with Braintree. Calverton and Arnold, another old hand, is the weak link here.
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Finally, there’s Group 32, and this is where PJ’s Stourbridge comes in to the equation. This is actually a bloody good group. I have a real fondness for Gosport A (old times on the Region 7 tour and all that) but I fear they will finish last behind the mighty PJ’s and the talented Norwich A.
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So, who will win the competition?
Trent Trophies A will win. This is the weakest Interleague line-up for years, at least on paper. I can’t see how it can be anything other than business as usual for the big guns.
Leicester are as usual the only serious threat to the Trophies.
PJ’s are brilliant but will probably implode at the semi-final stage.
Preston South will be buoyed by their recent successes but not have the strength in depth to go so far again.
Brighton A may reach the semi-finals.
Morley International? Ah, memories, but nothing more, sadly. In fact, the only team in the country, except Leicester, that I think has the depth and the confidence to trouble the Stoke boys is London’s Frank Smith, and they are not even here.
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If I am going to call a dark horse this year, then it is going to have to be Tolworth. They are itching for success after being such a solid team for so many years. Surrey’s recent dominance of the inter-county set-up must be a factor in their confidence as Tolworth contributed to that success in a big way. Their players may have just come of age, but even so, they have to be a 33/1 shot in this company, where Trent Trophies are such overwhelming favourites. Indeed, the most difficult challenge for Trent Trophies might very well be getting out of the groups. If they achieve that OK, they will as always just get better and better as the weekend progresses.
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No doubt I will be wrong on all counts.
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I leave you with the following call to arms: COME ON THE ‘LOO!
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Darren ‘The Doctor’ O’Byrne
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THE DOCTOR’S SURGERY - Yarmouth October 2008
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I’m a bit late this year in posting my twice-yearly predictions of who might do well at Yarmouth, so apologies for that.
Back in April we saw the dream final, with Trent Trophies beating Leicester in a battle of the two biggest guns in the armoury. Few people would bet against them meeting up again, provided the draw works out that way, in another final – but Yarmouth can do funny things to people!
It’s disappointing that Waterloo 2 is not involved this time. We failed to qualify and were not lucky enough to get one of the ‘lucky loser’ spaces in the draw. Waterloo 1 is there of course, but it has a monster of a group … But more on that later!
This will be the first October Yarmouth I have missed since Waterloo first made it to the finals, so I’ll be rather at a loss that weekend. But good luck to the rest of the guys!
So, who do I think will do what?
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Defending champions Trent Trophies A start off in Group 1 and look pretty safe to come through. Our London comrades Barnet, mistakenly registered as Finchley, are also in this group and will run them close, but not close enough. Barnet should beat Buckingham for second spot.
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Group 2 contains no real superstar teams but it will be a decent slog between journeymen Leek A and Crawley, with the Staffs outfit squeezing it I think. I do not know anything about newcomers Raywood.
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Group 3 is a pretty weak group, and although they have no track record as such, I am going to stick my neck out for Renegade B, because the Berkshire set-up is getting better each year. Hinckley from Leicestershire should see off Worcestershire’s Reddith A in the other game.
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Group 4 is a no-brainer – perennial semi-finalists Brighton A will cruise this group, ahead of Penrith from Cumbria, which is a decent side, and Cambridge KSR.
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Group 5 includes Dinnington, who were surprise semi-finalists in April. They should still be on a roll so I expect the South Yorkshire mob to clean up here, ahead of Medway. Having said that, Medway are benefitting from a number of ex-Rochester players switching sides (Rochester has dissolved) so they could be more dangerous than usual. This could be a really interesting game to watch. I know nothing about Normans Elite so I tip them for the wooden spoon.
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Leicester will win Group 6, of course. Bicester Select from Oxfordshire is good enough for second, and Littlehampton Select from Sussex has a decent record, but neither can match Steve Robertshaw’s world-beaters.
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Group 7 throws up another curve-ball – who in the name of Hades are Snooks? We’ll find out in due course, but in the meantime, let’s go with who we know, and tip Derbyshire’s Long Eaton to squeeze past Luton Lions and win this weak group.
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Group 8 is one of the best groups in the draw. Two teams in this group are top-drawer. Birmingham’s Small Heath has a terrific track record, one of the best in the country, but I fancy them to lose out to in-form Preston South, which boasts Gareth Hibbott and Lee Clough among others. Biggleswade, making their second visit to the finals, can only sit and watch.
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Group 9 contains no real contenders but I fancy veterans Holderness to progress. The Leicester Bulls may be a new name for one of the many established Leicester sides, while Hammersmith has only appeared once before and has no real stars in its line-up. I will opt for Yorkshire grit!
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In Group 10, I am plumping for Essex’s Braintree A. They have no track record whatsoever but I have heard rumours that this year they have signed up a certain Rob Hill! If so that could make all the difference and inspire the rest of the team to victory. Andover (there are two teams with this name, of course, so I might be mistaken) are a decent side and will start as favourites but I am going for an upset here. Cumbria’s Whitehaven will give it a go.
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Group 11 is a nightmare! There’s Ely, perpetual journeymen and underachievers with Phil Harrison in the side, plus Godalming A, the Surrey outfit capable of beating anyone, and then there’s a team called Q Club. Q Club is new to the finals, but I am guessing it is really just a new name for the old Chester-le-Street team that has made it to national semi-finals before, and contains guys like Stu Green and Marc Farnsworth. They played out of the Q Club in Chester-le-Street so if I am right I am nudging towards them. If I am wrong, I think Godalming will win.
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One of the top sides in the country is Weston A from Somerset and they should clean up in Group 12. South Norfolk A and Northampton’s NVPL B will be left a ways behind.
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On the neighbouring table, Weston B could make it a family double, as they are in the very weak Group 13 against Dorking and the Stockport Sharks. Groups like that make one yearn to be there!
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Group 14 is a toss-up between Chesterfield and Chorlton. Although the Manchester boys are in form I think Chesterfield has the experience and should squeeze it. Wallingford are out of their depth.
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In Group 15, Kent’s Romney Marsh will start favourites, over Dawley B from Shropshire and Witney from Oxfordshire.
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Sun Valley from Nottingham have plenty of championship experience and will win Group 16 easily enough. Both Lowestoft Town Select and Lancasterare capable sides but the former champions are better.
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Group 17 gives my perennial outside bet, the wholly under-achieving Renegade A from Berkshire, a chance to shine. The team skippered by England manager Rob Uzzell really does need to establish itself in this competition after years of threatening to do so. They should have enough strength in depth to beat High Wycombe and Riverside from Hertfordshire.
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I think Norwich B will just beat Shrewsbury A to win Group 18. I saw them thrash Waterloo I last April. Cornwall’s Camborne and Redruth have not been here for a while.
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Group 19 sees the return of East Herts, although I am guessing that this is actually EHPL renaming itself in the guise of its more successful league neighbour. If so, I think they will flatter to deceive but I think they might still win the group, ahead of Gosport A and Cherry Tree from Nottingham, both of which are decent teams.
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Speaking of comebacks, what about this – Barking Elite is back at the Interleague in Group 20! That’s great news for fans of the game’s history, although this team probably won’t contain the megastars who combined to win the 2001 Interleague. Event so, any team with that name is worth supporting, and I fancy them to beat the strong Wigan side and I feel really sorry for hapless Brighton M being drawn in this group.
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Group 21 is very hard to call. Coventry’s Reds I can beat anyone on their day, with their blend of youth and experience, while South Norfolk have shown how good they can be on their day as well, but I am edging towards Accrington mainly because this team, which used to be called Hyndburn, contains a number of ex-All’oas and includes some of Lancashire’s best.
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Clacton will win Group 22. Just as one former Barking Elite man, Rob Hill, now lines up for Braintree, so does another, Darren Collison, for Clacton, which will mean anyone watching this table will get to see a true legend in action. Leek B and Punchbowl, about whom I know nothing, are in for a treat, of sorts, as well.
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In Group 23 I fancy Cambridge Elite, and I think they could be a real dark horse for the competition as well. The battle for second place between Trent Trophies B and Pocket Rockets B will be tight, but I will go for the Staffs team edging out the Northants outfit.
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Group 24 looks on paper to be pretty weak. Neither Shrewsbury B nor Ipswich B strike fear into anyone’s hearts, and who, one might ask, are White Rose OAPs? New name, for sure, but I am gambling on a guess that this is not a new team. I am guessing they are from Yorkshire and have plenty of experience, and given that neither Leeds nor the ex-Sheffield (Mexborough-Railway) teams are in action, this could very well prove to be a cunning deception. Refusing to be deceived, I am going for the White Rose old-timers.
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Group 25 should belong to Dawley A and I hope it does but Norwich A are more than capable of surprising them. Driffield come here every year and enjoy the trip, but rarely get very far in the competition.
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The Surrey Warriors should win Group 26, but they have to first get past Derbyshire’s men-in-pink, Corn Exchange, which is no easy thing. Luton Elite have once again drawn a tough group and will therefore have to wait another year before they justify that ‘elite’ tag.
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Our friends from Frank Smith are in Group 27, which is a winnable group but not an easy one. Both Nuneaton A and Wolverhampton Wednesday B are decent teams, quarter-finalists, so they won’t be intimidated by the Londoners.
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I think Leicester’s second team, Leicester City, will win Group 28, ahead of the St Albans Saints and Bracknell and Ascot A.
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In Group 29 I am going for Marcus Lannie and the Worcester Dream Team. Essex’s Barking Phoenix often promise more than they deliver, while Nottingham are not in the same class.
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One of the best teams in the county is Surrey’s Tolworth and they will show that when they win Group 30, seeing off Surridge-driven St Johns from Worcestershire and Cornwall’s Truro.
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Group 31 is the group of death. It certainly seems that way for our own Waterloo 1 boys. They have been drawn in with not one but two potential champions. Not only do they draw former semi-finalists Reds Elite from Coventry, which is a real all-star team, but then they also draw top-four team PJ’s Stourbridge from the West Midlands, complete with Mick Hill, Rob Chilton and Neil Raybone. Whatever they do, the Waterloo lads will have a ball and give it their best, and who knows, anything is possible, but I have to say in all honesty I cannot see my squad-mates winning either of their matches in this horrific group. The group is likely to be decided in the opening fixture, as Reds Elite take on PJ’s. I would not be at all surprised if the Coventry team pulls itself together to cause a big upset here, but my reason tells me it probably will be the mighty PJ’s that comes through, just.
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Ipswich may be weakened from various departures but they should still win Group 32, ahead of East Leeds, a decent side, and Northampton’s NVPL A, who have been coming for years and not achieving anything of note.
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So, who might win the whole thing? To be honest, I think there are four teams in it – the ‘big four’: Frank Smith, Leicester, PJ’s Stourbridge, and Trent Trophies A. If I was to name a fifth team capable of pulling a surprise, it would be Preston South, who have so many first-rate and in-form players. But it is hard to look beyond the big guns. This year, I am going to do something unusual and pick my champion by rating each player who is likely (based on previous tournaments) to be in the starting line-up for each of these teams. I might be way off, some of these guys may not be actually playing, or the line-ups may change, but I can’t know that for sure, so I will base it on what I can surmise. So, in alphabetical order …
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FRANK SMITH (London)
Sean Halligan Experienced campaigner unlikely to be phased by anyone 8/10
John Kelly IPA pro returning to some form after a poor spell 7/10
Rob McKay Former World Championship semi-finalist but team form is inconsistent 7/10
Danny Miller High-flying professional of whom much is expected 8/10
Jack Pople Youngest starter is also the team’s most reliable frame-winner 8/10
Rob Southey Capable enough but not playing at his best 6/10
Mark Thrussell Good attitude to the game makes him a safe bet 8/10
Neil Toms Fantastic record for county and team and expected to open well 9/10
Dean Wisher Model captain whose commitment is beyond reproach and who always pulls it out for the team 9/10
Likely reserves
Ramesh Gokhul Missed a lot of the qualifying campaign, so unlikely to be given a starting spot
John Runghen Reliable in qualifying, likely to be brought on as a substitute
Adam Toms Junior player unlikely to be used in important matches
TOTAL: 70/90
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LEICESTER (Leicestershire)
Vinny Allen Leicester anchorman, solid as a rock 8/10
Steve Chambers Proven tournament winner with indifferent record in finals 8/10
Tommy Donlon Nine-ball commitments detract, but always a dangerous opponent 9/10
Tom Ford Snooker pro capable of beating anyone 9/10
Gavin Lomax Another snooker pro with plenty of experience 8/10
Steve Morris There are no actual weak links in the Leicester side 7/10
Steve Robertshaw The ultimate captain and consummate team player 9/10
Mark Selby Former World Champ and all-round cue maestro 10/10
Colin Treadwell Often plays in opening three and rarely disappoints 8/10
Likely reserves
Andy Lee Snooker pro outstanding when drafted in to fill some significant gaps in 2007 Interleague, but probably back on the bench this time
Harry Patel Reliable reserve for the Leicester team
Lee Ross Often gets a starting place but probably not if the team is at full-strength
TOTAL: 76/90
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P.J.’S STOURBRIDGE (West Midlands)
Wayne Bedford Unheralded player with final experience 6/10
Rob Chilton Vastly experienced pro star 10/10
Paul Dunkey Reliable ex-captain with plenty of matchplay experience 8/10
Ritchie Foxall Always strong in competitions, individual and team 8/10
Mick Hill Many still rate him as the finest player of all time 10/10
Hitan Patel Climbing fast up the professional rankings 8/10
Neil Raybone One of the in-form players in the world at the moment 9/10
Ben Swinnerton Rising star yet to establish his full credentials 7/10
Pat Ward Experienced captain will need to raise his game 7/10
Likely reserves
Ty Bradley Likely first reserve, played in recent final but lost
Rob Clark Probably not in contention any more
Jarrod Griffiths Probably not in contention any more either
TOTAL: 73/90
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TRENT TROPHIES A (Staffordshire)
Mark Blackshaw Experienced player but has poor record in finals 6/10
Steve Bridgewood Plays outstanding for county but not so well at Interleague, so will need to be on his best form 7/10
Jamie Croxton Very talented cue sportsman is having a terrific season 9/10
Adam Davis The most reliable player in the team, its opener, and the world number four 10/10
Lee Kendall England captain, former world finalist, and one of the best players of all time 10/10
Daz Lightfoot Vastly experienced and rock-solid former England International 8/10
Gareth Potts World Champion for a third time – ‘nuff said? 10/10
Darren Shone May not have celebrity status but has performed outstandingly for his team in recent years 9/10
Liam White Talented youngster with indifferent record in finals 8/10
Likely reserves
Phil Cummins Played in qualifying but unlikely to get on to the main stage
Jamie Latham Also unlikely to see any main action
Steve Prince First reserve, having won Staffordshire Open title
TOTAL: 77/90
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So, there you have it – Trent Trophies A to win, AGAIN!
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Come on all the other teams, prove me wrong! And COME ON WATERLOO!
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The Doctor
29.9.08
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THE DOCTOR’S SURGERY - Yarmouth April 2008
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Hello to everyone! Unless you’ve been away on holiday to the ends of the Earth, you will know by now that the draw for the EPA Interleague finals at Great Yarmouth next weekend has been made, so both Waterloo teams now know who their opposition will be when they hit the baize on the morning of Saturday 5th April.
Historically, when the draw is made, it falls to me to run through my predictions, group by group, based on my (admittedly, superficial) knowledge of the teams, their track records at Yarmouth, and their current squads. So, here goes …
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Table 1
Table 1 is the table reserved for the defending champion and so usually quite an easy table to predict. The defending champion is usually a team of considerable talent and achievement, and the odds of such a team being drawn against an even stronger team are, well, long to say the least. This year is no exception, as the mighty Leicester begin their campaign for a third consecutive Interleague title. In the group trying to stop them will be Warwickshire’s talented Reds I and Somerset’s Taunton LVA. The best these teams can really hope for is an honourable second place. Taunton is a decent side, and did for Waterloo in the last 32 of this event last year, but the draw has been cruel to them this time round so they are my tip for the wooden spoon here. Reds I should be able to see them off easily enough. But neither team will touch Leicester. This event clashes, of course, with snooker’s China Open but even without the services of regular superstar squad members Mark Selby and Tom Ford, both away on snooker duty, Leicester won it last year. That says something about how good this team really is.
The Doctor’s Pick: Leicester
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Table 2
This is a more difficult group to call, as all three teams are solid if unspectacular. Local boys Great Yarmouth are Norfolk champions but whether they are relishing a visit to the local caravan park is uncertain. Warwickshire’s Nuneaton Lions have some experienced players, while Wolverhampton Wednesday B from the West Midlands come every year carrying with them the proud name of one of the greatest teams ever to grace the Interleague finals. I’ll plump for them, I think, ahead of Nuneaton and then the local lads.
The Doctor’s Pick: Wolverhampton Wednesday B
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Table 3
This group brings together two heavyweights in the form of Kent’s Rochester and Durham’s Chester-le-Street. Last year, these two teams met in the semi-finals, and although Rochester won, the boys from Durham had more than earned their stripes, making it all the way to the semis on their Yarmouth debut. Having Mark Farnsworth in the team was a plus, of course. But then again, Rochester has its share of top guns and professionals, which is why it is one of the most consistent teams in the event. So it’s Rochester for me, and an early exit for Chester-le-Street, although I can’t see either team struggling against the poor third team in the group, Manchester’s Chorlton.
The Doctor’s Pick: Rochester
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Table 4
Again, there’s no obvious winner in the group that features Crewe from Cheshire, Evesham from Worcestershire, and Romney Marsh from Kent. While the Kent outfit has the most experience, Crewe did well last year and I suspect will do so again, so I am plumping for them.
The Doctor’s Pick: Crewe
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Table 5
This group contains our own Waterloo, ably captained by Jerry Tickell himself with the usual suspects lining up for a piece of the action. Waterloo has steadily established itself as a decent campaigner worthy of respect and just waiting for that big breakthrough, so will that be this year? Standing in the way are Milton Keynes A from Buckinghamshire and Norwich B from Norfolk. To be honest, I cannot in all honesty say I think Waterloo will win this group. Milton Keynes A is a tough outfit, albeit an under-achiever. There are some tasty professionals wearing MK colours, and I think strength in depth is on their side. Waterloo should certainly see off Norwich B though, who will be the wooden-spooners in this group. Sorry Jerry!
The Doctor’s Pick: Milton Keynes A
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Table 6
Finally, a group with a runaway winner! Lancashire’s Preston South are head and shoulders above the others in this group, boasting as they do the likes of Gareth Hibbott and Lee Clough. East Yorkshire’s Driffield come here every year, sometimes under the pseudonym North Wolds, and do OK, so I fancy them to take second place ahead of Shropshire’s Shrewsbury B. But Preston South is a team worth watching.
The Doctor’s Pick: Preston South
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Table 7
On paper this is an easy one, because Surrey’s Godalming is one of the most consistent teams in the competition – never actually champions, but always hard to beat. Hertfordshire’s St Albans Saints are a class below, if history is any guide, and as for West Yorkshire’s Pilky’s, well, they’ve never been to Yarmouth before, so they should be the bottom team. But then, if you look a little more closely, you might recognise some of the names lining up for the Keighley-based team, and in particular, a certain Chris Melling. Yup – Melling is back, for the first time since the demise of Triangle, to lead the way for Pilky’s, and that makes them dangerous. Dangerous enough to beat Godalming? It’s a hard call. Probably not, although clearly it depends on who else is playing well in the team. I would not be at all surprised if Pilky’s show they are more than a one-man outfit and come through this group.
The Doctor’s Pick: Godalming
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Table 8
Ever heard of PJ’s Stourbridge? No? Why not?! Do the names Rob Chilton, Neil Raybone, Hitan Patel, and a certain Mick Hill mean anything to you? Last October I tipped the West Midlands team to win the whole Knockout Cup, party because the addition of ex-Triangle player Hill strengthened an already superb team, and although they didn’t go all the way, don’t expect them to fall early come April. They will romp through this group with room to spare, leaving Cheshire’s Northwich and East Yorkshire’s Howden to scramble for second place.
The Doctor’s Pick: PJ’s Stourbridge
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Table 9
This group is another where I think one team will dominate, and that team will be Northamptonshire’s veterans from Kettering. There’s just too much depth there for them to be troubled by the likes of Glossop from Derbyshire or Miscues from South Yorkshire. I notice that there is no ‘new Sheffield’ this year (over the past few years, players from the once mighty Sheffield team have reappeared at Yarmouth in various guises) so Miscues may represent a fragment of that shattered diamond, but probably still not enough to trouble Kettering.
The Doctor’s Pick: Kettering
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Table 10
This is a tough one to call, because it contains three teams that, on their day, could cause trouble for anyone, and have bags of experience on the big stage. I’m going to opt for Cambridgeshire’s historical under-achievers Ely, complete with in-form Phil Harrison, to see off Northamptonshire’s Northampton Village PLA and Berkshire’s Bracknell and Ascot A, who I suspect may finish in that order.
The Doctor’s Pick: Ely
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Table 11
There are two new teams on this table – Accrington from Lancashire and Biggleswade from the West Midlands – and that leaves Staffordshire’s Afford in the unusual position of being group favourites. Afford is best known for being a feeder league to the mighty Trent Trophies, but it has some capable players of its own. Having said that, Accrington might spoil the party, because they appear to have a few ex-All’oas in their line-up. If that’s the case, whatever name they’re going under, they are going to be pretty tough to beat. This is a hard call, between these two sides.
The Doctor’s Pick: Accrington
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Table 12
My tip here, in this close group of three experienced teams, is Warwickshire’s Nuneaton to finish ahead of Essex’s Barking Elite and Sussex’s Littlehampton Select, but any one of these three teams could win it on the day.
The Doctor’s Pick: Nuneaton
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Table 13
No disrespect intended, but it’s a pretty weak group if Bedfordshire’s Luton Elite start as runaway favourites. They’ve hardly earned that elite tag over the years. This year they have a great chance to do so by progressing through to the later rounds at the expense of Leicestershire’s City of Leicester and Hampshire’s Gosport B, neither of which are earth-movers.
The Doctor’s Pick: Luton Elite
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Table 14
Trent Trophies B should dominate this group – hey, Trent Trophies Z would dominate many a group! The Staffordshire outfit will have enough fire-power to see off two hit and miss teams in Oxfordshire’s Witney and West Yorkshire’s Macmillan, in a relatively weak group.
The Doctor’s Pick: Trent Trophies B
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Table 15
This is another tough one to call, as Dinnington from South Yorkshire, Deal A from Kent and Leicester City are all capable of beating each other. I’m throwing the die here and it’s coming up Dinnington …
The Doctor’s Pick: Dinnington
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Table 16
No such crisis of confidence here, as I comfortably predict Worcestershire’s talented St John’s to romp home in this group, ahead of Cumbria’s Whitehaven and the Leicester Lions, in that order.
The Doctor’s Pick: St John’s
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Table 17
London’s top team Frank Smith made it to the semi-finals in October and plans to go further this time round. This is the revamped Imperial team, full of stars like Dean Wisher, Andy Breen, Neil Toms, Rob McKay, Sean Halligan … well, you know the rest. So they should have no problems at all winning this group, which is unfortunate for Derbyshire’s Corn Exchange, which is a decent side and a nice bunch of lads. I feel a tad sorry for Manchester’s Stockport.
The Doctor’s Pick: Frank Smith
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Table 18
The veterans from Wigan, one of the tournament’s true campaigners, are in action on this table. Wigan has a solid record in the event and should be strong enough to win this group, ahead of Kent’s Folkestone and Nottinghamshire’s Nottingham.
The Doctor’s Pick: Wigan
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Table 19
Most of us know a fair few of the Croydon players, so it can’t have been pleasant seeing the draw, and realising who they are up against! Nottinghamshire’s Sun Valley is one of the elite six or seven teams active at the moment and Croydon, who could have been favourites in many other groups, will be left to lick their wounds after Sun Valley pull out the magic they are capable of. Both teams should beat Cumbria’s Kendal easily enough.
The Doctor’s Pick: Sun Valley
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Table 20
When I saw the draw, I admit, I wasn’t entirely displeased. Both Clitheroe from Lancashire and Ilkeston from Derbyshire have been to Yarmouth before, but they are neither of them hardy veterans, chalking up less than a handful of visits in recent years, with Ilkeston’s last-sixteen appearance three years’ back the crowning achievement of either team. Of course, their captains would have been saying the same thing about us when they saw the draw – Waterloo 2, who are they and what can they bring to the party? I won’t underestimate opponents but at the same time I won’t play down the strength we have with the likes of Joe Prince and Jamie Fay, and that man Micky Clayton on dazzling form right now … I won’t go on to name everyone, suffice to say as a team I think we are strong enough to come through this group if we focus and win those key games.
The Doctor’s Pick: Waterloo 2
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Table 21
The big story in this group is the heavyweight contest between Birmingham Small Heath and Tolworth from Surrey. Tolworth made it to the semis in October so confidence should be high, but the West Midlands champions always play well whatever they call themselves. Expect a real battle royale! Oxfordshire’s Bicester Select are no slouches by any stretch of the imagination, but you have to feel for them being drawn in this group.
The Doctor’s Pick: Tolworth
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Table 22
The obvious pick here is Hertfordshire’s EHPL but this is not the same as the East Herts team that used to rattle a few sabres in the past, and to be frank, EHPL may have outlived that other team but it has yet to match it on the table. So, while they will be favourites, they will also be vulnerable, and the other two teams in the group, Gravesham from Kent and Horden from Durham will be itching to knock them down. Horden is an odd side, which does well when it turns up, which is infrequently, while Gravesham is steady and not to be under-rated.
The Doctor’s Pick: Horden
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Table 23
Leeds from West Yorkshire used to be an OK side, never one to challenge the big guns, always in the shadow of local rivals Triangle, until Triangle broke up, and Leeds benefited by signing up Darren Appleton, Andy Richardson, Kev Barton, and now Rob Wilson. So now, watch them go! They should be genuinely among the pre-tournament favourites for this event, and getting out of a group that contains those dogged campaigners Dawley B from Shropshire and Medway from Kent should be easy enough for them.
The Doctor’s Pick: Leeds
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Table 24
My money here is on Berkshire’s Renegade A, a team I have for some time now been saying is ready to establish itself in the big time, but tends to under-perform. I am staying with them, though, to win this group ahead of the West Midlands team Lye and Stourbridge and Suffolk’s Ipswich B, both of which have some capable players in their squads.
The Doctor’s Pick: Renegade A
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Table 25
Whatever happened to Coventry? These days there is no Coventry, there’s just … Reds! And here, on this table, are the Reds Elite, Warwickshire’s finest who’ll be expecting a decent run in the competition. They’ve not got an easy group to start with. Both Hampshire’s Gosport A and Suffolk’s Lowestoft Town Select have been around the block a few times. Personally, I’d be hoping for a Gosport win, top guys that they are, but Reds Elite are just, well, a class above.
The Doctor’s Pick: Reds Elite
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Table 26
When I first saw this draw, I was tempted to call a major upset – I was going to opt for Cambridge Elite to pull a rabbit out of the hat and catch Shropshire’s ever loud and lively Dawley A while they’re still waking up … But at the risk of drowning in more clichés, suffice to say that I’ve had a change of heart, come to my senses, and I’m going to be a bit predictable and go with Dawley, Craig Reynolds and all. Make no mistake, though, Cambridge Elite is a top side and Cambridge has a proud record in national finals. They should finish off poor Hammersmith, representing Berkshire for the first time, with room to spare.
The Doctor’s Pick: Dawley A
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Table 27
On this table, two of the country’s second-tier teams – always strong without achieving glorious championship wins – slug it out, and my feeling, as it often is, is with Suffolk’s tough Ipswich A to see off the challenge of the Surrey Warriors. Worcestershire’s Redditch are in for a long, unrewarding day.
The Doctor’s Pick: Ipswich A
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Table 28
I know nothing about West Midlands’s Darlaston as they are playing here for the first time but the team sheet includes some names familiar to pool players from other teams in the area, so they shouldn’t be overawed by the occasion. Sussex’s Crawley are also experienced, albeit unspectacular, and Dorset’s Wessex A have a fair few top players in their line-up, so this is not an easy group to call. Much will depend on how good Darlaston is, I think.
The Doctor’s Pick: Wessex A
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Table 29
Essex’s Colchester A have been to the final before, seeing off Trent Trophies A and Leicester along the way, so they should win this group, ahead, I think, of Buckinghamshire’s High Wycombe and Staffordshire’s Alsager.
The Doctor’s Pick: Colchester A
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Table 30
The odd thing about Chesterfield is that although the city is in Derbyshire, the team plays out of Nottinghamshire. And while you are digesting that geographical titbit, here’s some more news: they ain’t bad. But though they will start as favourites in this group, they shouldn’t expect it to be plain sailing when they face West Yorkshire’s East Leeds who had an impressive debut back in October. The third team in this group is Renegade B from Berkshire which is also more than capable of pulling out a win, so it’ll be a decent one to watch.
The Doctor’s Pick: Chesterfield
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Table 31
For me, this is the group of death. Somerset’s Weston, runner-up in the Knockout Cup in October, takes on Sussex’s Brighton A in a real heavyweight clash. There is literally nothing separating these teams. You’ve got Russell Burgess on one side, but then again you’ve got Moray Dolan on the other … it goes on like that as you work your way down the team sheets. This will be one hell of a match! You have to feel sorry for East Yorkshire’s Holderness, a team that comes here twice a year every year and always does well enough, a dangerous middle-ranked floater, rarely bottom of a group. They’ll certainly experience that this time round. Brighton or Weston? Weston or Brighton?
The Doctor’s Pick: Brighton A
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Table 32
And finally … Table 32 plays host to Andover from Hampshire and Cambridge KSR (which stands, by the way, for King Street Run) from Cambridgeshire. Let’s hope these two teams enjoy themselves and play their best when they take each other on because neither will be seeing much of the table in their other game, which will be against a certain Trent Trophies A. Gareth Potts, Adam Davis, Carl Morris, Lee Kendall, Daz Henshall, Darren Lightfoot … This is the dream team of Interleague pool, and after winning so comprehensively in October, they will be fired up to add the Interleague title to their Knockout Cup. Would YOU bet against them?
The Doctor’s Pick: Trent Trophies A
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SO, CAN I PICK A WINNER?
Probably not, is the answer! But I’ll have a go. Below, in order, is my top ten picks of teams to watch …Not counting Waterloo 2, of course!
Trent Trophies A – Just a powerhouse through and through, who can stop them?
Leicester – Minus Selby, but the defending champions have already shown us that they have far more strength in depth than any other team going, almost
PJ’s Stourbridge – If Mr Hill has settled in, it could be time for PJ’s to come good
Frank Smith – My faith in our friends from London is well-earned
Leeds – Ready to establish themselves as the New Triangle, in more ways than one
Dawley A – No team has a better spirit, Dawley represent that kind of good, unfashionable, local-league, team-based approach to the game and are all the better for it
Rochester – Are they ready to graduate from bridesmaid to bride?
Preston South – A dark horse, beyond any shadow of a doubt
Brighton A – If they get past Weston, here’s a team quite used to playing in the latter stages, but they probably don’t have enough fire-power to win it
Sun Valley – Nottinghamshire’s finest probably won’t be lifting the trophy on Sunday
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Yours, in the true spirit of the game
Darren ‘The Doctor’ O’Byrne
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THE DOCTOR’S SURGERY - Yarmouth October 2007
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Yarmouth is nearly upon us, and this time, Waterloo will be represented by two teams, both itching to get out of the group stages and into the latter stages of the tournament. But as ever, navigating the way out of the groups is the toughest challenge. On Table 27, Waterloo 1 find themselves in a tricky group with two experienced teams - Cherry Tree from Nottinghamshire, and North Wolds from East Yorkshire.
While I think Waterloo has the firepower to come through this group, it certainly won’t be a stroll in the park.
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Meanwhile, on Table 22,Waterloo II makes its debut as a team in the competition against two other debutant teams, but this is going to be an equally tricky group. Trent Trophies Tuesday carry the Trent Trophies name – the A team from that league boasts world champion Gareth Potts in its line-up – so clearly they are going to be capable enough players, not to be taken lightly, while Norwich A may be playing for the first time, but we are told that the team contains a number of Norfolk county stars so there’s plenty of quality there.
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I won’t speculate on our chances further. Instead I’ll turn my attention to the other tables, and offer my predictions for the tournament as a whole. First, onTable 1, defending champions Sun Valley from Nottingham should have enough strength and experience to progress from a group that also features Cambridge Elite, and Tolworth II. Cambridge Elite will run them close, but the Notts boys, with Baydon Jackson leading the way, should do enough.
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On Table 2, there’s a really tight group featuring three teams – Lye & Stourbridge from the West Midlands, Grove Elite from West Yorkshire, andBracknell & Ascot B from Berkshire – who all have talent, even if none of them is likely to be holding the trophy aloft on Sunday. I’ll opt for Lye & Stourbridge to shade this group.
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Similarly, on Table 3, none of the teams are pushovers, but Cambridgeshire’s Ely have real strength – especially if Phil ‘Farmer’ Harrison is on call – and are beginning to shake off the under-achiever tag. They should come out on top ahead of Bracknell & Ascot A, and Oxfordshire’s Bicester Select, but all the teams have the ability to progress.
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Table 4 features three largely untested teams, so anything could happen. I’ll take pot luck and go for Cambridge Snooker Club to win ahead of Derbyshire’sGlossop, and West Yorkshire’s Macmillan.
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Table 5 is another one that’s on paper too close to call. EHPL from Hertfordshire, and Pocket Rockets B from Northamptonshire, have both flattered to deceive, while Portsmouth’s return to the big stage after some years may end in disappointment. I’m opting for the greater experience of EHPL – just.
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On Table 6, Bedfordshire’s Luton Elite have yet to live up to that elite tag, so could this be their year? I can’t seem them being troubled by Kent’sFolkestone or Cheshire’s Northwich, but Northwich went to the Interleague finals in March as first-timers and promptly won their group, so watch out.
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Our friends Battersea A line up on Table 7. Poor Battersea, they have been handed a nightmare of a group, against two veteran teams – Coventry Reds, andBarking Phoenix. Coventry usually has enough firepower to progress, while Barking know a thing or two about the big stage. Our best wishes will be with Battersea …
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Table 8 features one of the weaker groups. Harlow’s Riverside Elite are tough, but I’m sticking my neck out for Hampshire’s Andover in this one. Leek B, I think, will be the wooden-spooners.
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Another relatively weak group lines up on Table 9, with Derby, East Leeds andBrighton M all some way down in the rankings. Brighton M return to Yarmouth, after receiving two 17-1 drubbings earlier in the year at the Interleague finals. Hopefully, they’ll do a little better. I’m going for Derby to win this group.
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This year’s Interleague runner-up, the mighty Rochester – home to the two Ians, Kettel and Hubbard, plus Jordan Church and Dean Cole and numerous others – should wrap up the group on Table 10 easily enough. That’s a shame for Northamptonshire’s NVPLA, who are fast-improving. The third team is Lancashire’s Preston City.
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On Table 11, I’m going for Brighton B to win, ahead of Penrith, and finallyLeek A. I don’t fancy the overall chances of any of these teams, but Brighton’s second team might have enough to take them through.
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Table 12 will see a shoot-out between two very good sides in Chesterfield andSurrey Warriors. I fancy Chesterfield to come out on top. Pity poor High Wycombe, newcomers and cannon-fodder.
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Did I say cannon-fodder? Better whisper that term around folks from Redditch, who have been drawn on Table 13 (unlucky for some) in the group from Hell! Two teams full of superstars, genuine title contenders, slugging it out, and there’s Redditch, looking meekly on! The other two teams in this group are London’s Frank Smith, formerly Imperial, boasting our sparring partners Andy Breen, Dean Wisher, Rob McKay, Ramesh Gokhul, J.J. Faul, Sean Halligan, Neil Toms, Mark Thrussell, Rob Southey, Jack Pople, and Johnny Kelly himself, andPreston South, who boast the likes of Gareth Hibbott and Lee Clough in their team. There’s will be a classic encounter, and the winner genuinely has a chance of winning the title. I think Frank Smith have enough strength in depth to come through, and recapture that old Imperial winning habit. Come on boys!
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Another contender is Brighton A – led from the front by Moray Dolan. The Sussex outfit has a pretty easy group this year – I can’t see Leicester Lions orClitheroe giving them any trouble at all on Table 14.
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Table 15 features a cracking group, really. Three evenly matched teams will be fighting for supremacy, in Ipswich, Kettering, and Gosport A. Earlier this year, at the Interleague finals, Ipswich got drawn in a similar group (with Sun Valley and Godalming) and ended up bottom! This time I think they will stamp their authority on the group and make it through.
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Godalming A is in action on Table 16. At the Interleague finals, this team beat Sun Valley, so seeing off Leicestershire’s Hinckley and local boys Great Yarmouth (making their debut, curiously) really shouldn’t be too much trouble for the Surrey outfit.
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Another top Surrey side is playing on Table 17 – Tolworth I. They have a tight group which also involves Derbyshire’s finest, Corn Exchange. I think Tolworth has just about enough to squeeze it. St Johns from Worcestershire will be propping up the group.
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Last year’s surprise runner-up Colchester should have no problem winning onTable 18, against Nottinghamshire’s Newbold and Sussex’s Brighton S.
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Old hands Weston A, from Somerset, with Russell Burgess in the side, should clean up on Table 19. Neither City of Leicester or Gravesham A are world-beaters.
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Shropshire’s Dawley A certainly is a world-beater. The vociferous team that boasts top pro Craig Reynolds in its line-up will be hoping to cruise through its group as usual. But wait a minute – Leeds, another team in this group, hasn’t exactly set the world on fire, but all that could change this year, now that they have gone into the transfer market and picked up a couple of ex-Triangles, former national champion Andy Richardson, and, hmm, some fellow named Darren Appleton – world number one or something. Expect fireworks! Even so, I can’t see Leeds stopping Dawley A from winning the group. Gosport B is there to make up the numbers (but Chrystal Sedman and her team will certainly not see it that way!).
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On Table 21, Trent Trophies enters the arena. Yes, that’s Gareth “I’ve just won my second world championship in three years” Potts, Carl “I’ve been a world champion too you know” Morris, and numerous other heavyweights of the game.Reds I, from the impressive Coventry Reds stable, will be keen to make a fight of it, but Trent Trophies should wrap this up easily enough, ahead of Reds I, and Berkshire’s Renegade B.
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Over on Table 23, I think Shrewsbury B – which in recent years has made it through to the finals when the A team hasn’t – will finish ahead of Ipswich B and Manchester’s Chorlton.
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Table 24 sees another veteran contender, Walsall, start as favourites, but South Yorkshire’s Shakespeare could be a handful, given that Terry Hunt is in the side. The other team, Medway, also has a well-known winner in Barbara Taylor. I still think Walsall will edge it though.
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Berkshire’s Renegade A is my tip for Table 25. Crewe A and the Worcester Hotshots don’t seem to have the strength in depth to worry the team that’s captained by England manager Rob Uzzell. Renegade are serious under-achievers and I really think a good run is due.
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Over on Table 26, veterans Holderness and newcomers Riverside can’t have been happy knowing they were drawn to play the mighty P.J.’s Stourbridge, with Rob ‘Gravy’ Chilton and Neil ‘Razor’ Raybone heading its all-star line-up. Imagine how they felt when they learned that Stourbridge had recruited a new member to the team – a certain Mr Mick Hill, former world champion. This should be a breeze for the West Midlands giants.
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On Table 28, expect another good battle between Wigan and Wolverhampton Wednesday B. Wolverhampton Wednesday is, of course, one of those truly famous names in Interleague circles – ranking right up there with now defunct giants such as Sheffield, Barking Elite, Triangle, Imperial, All’oas, and contemporary ones such as Trent Trophies and Leicester. But the glory days are long since over, and the A team has folded, leaving a new crop of players to try to recapture the glory. This is a good side, but I think Wigan will be too strong and win this group comfortably. Littlehampton will be left propping up the table.
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Table 29 features the third, and strongest, of the three Coventry Reds teams –Reds Elite. They are up against Railway from South Yorkshire, and Braintree, from Essex. I’m ruling out Braintree, but Railway interest me, because they are in all but name the Mexborough team (minus Terry Hunt), which itself emerged from the ashes of that Sheffield side of years past. Railway will be no slouches, but I think on balance Reds Elite should win this interesting group.
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Table 30 brings us slightly down to earth with a relatively weaker line up, but still an interesting one. I fancy Lowestoft Town Select to edge this group, ahead of Somerset’s Weston B, and Manchester’s Heywood.
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The mighty Leicester are almost unstoppable at the moment. Last year they were surprisingly beaten in the semi-finals here by Colchester, but aside from that blip, Leicester players are current holders of the Knockout Cup (twice running), the County and Champion of Champions trophies. Phew. But then again, when you can call on the services of former world champion and top snooker pro Mark Selby, plus Tom Ford, Tommy Donlon and so on, it’s hardly a surprise.Nuneaton A have a good pedigree at the finals, so they will be cursing their luck at drawing Leicester, while Surrey’s Premier Pool League will be cursing more than that after the drubbings they could easily receive at the hands of these two experienced teams.
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Finally, on to Table 32, where Dawley B, Milton Keynes A, and newcomers South Norfolk, are fighting to be top dog. This is a tough one to call, but I am leaning towards Milton Keynes A, who have some talented professionals and tour players in their ranks, to win through.
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So, that’s the scout around the tables. Who has a chance of actually winning, in my humble opinion? Well, the usual suspects do come to mind, some with more of a chance than others.
Sun Valley had their moment last year, and I can’t see them repeating the feat.
Brighton A is a fair each way bet, although possibly not a win-only option.
The same can be said for the ultra-consistent Rochester, who have made two major finals in recent years but lost out to stronger teams on both occasions.
Preston South has the talent to do well, provided they make it out of the group, which will be no easy feat.
Wigan are due a good run, so maybe they make a good dark horse for a semi-final spot.
Naturally, Dawley A are always going to be in with a shout, and make no mistake, if other heavyweights start to fall around them, Dawley will be looking to take advantage.
And you can never rule out Trent Trophies A, the all-star team with the best record of all the Yarmouth sides, but somehow, of late, they have slipped up on unexpected banana skins, and this event might provide another one.
So, this basically leaves, in my view, three possible winners.
First, you can never rule out Leicester, the dominant side of the moment. If a bookmaker was placing odds, make no mistake that Leicester would be firm favourites.
Second, I have every confidence in the Frank Smith side, with its cream of London players, to be genuine contenders, just as their previous incarnation, Imperial, always was. If the mood is right, we could be celebrating a London win on Sunday.
But there’s one other team that just seems to be ready for it in a big way, as if to say that the time is finally right for the big win, and that team, unsurprisingly, is P.J.’s Stourbridge. Maybe Mick Hill will add even more class to an outfit already oozing class, but it’s more than just the addition of Mr Hill that makes me feel that this year may be P.J.’s year.
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We’ll find out on Sunday.